Summer Survey 2008

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The WUP submited a survery to its readers and posters. A total of 415 responses were submited (including a couple of franchise trolls) and summary results published in two issues of the Fanzine.

Measuring current expectation levels of Dons fans

Having finally escaped from the clutches of the Ryman League, the charms of the Blue Square South lie ahead, and some opine that this is a division that can be gone through like a blowtorch through butter, whilst others talk of consolidation for three or four seasons. So just how long will it be before we claim a place at the dizzy heights of the Conference National, where do people consider our “natural level” will ultimately be, and is the promised land of League 2 such a realistic prospect before 2012? WUP is conducting a summer survey of a diverse cross section of fans to try and assess the general level of expectation.

1. How many seasons do you expect AFCW to be in the Conference South?

1   6.0% (25)
2   38.1% (158)
3   47.5% (197)
4   6.5% (27)
5 or more   1.9% (8)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
2. How do you rate the progress made by AFCW so far since 2002 according to your original expectations?

Less than expected   9.6% (40)
Just as expected   57.6% (239)
More than expected   32.8% (136)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
3. League 2 by 2012 – realistic or a pipe-dream? Discuss…

# Response
1 Optimistic but there is ni=othing wrong with that. We need to be ambitious but realistic at the same time
1 the advent of the 2nd tier of conference has hampered that dream. To acheive this now, would require 2 promotions in 3 seasons, which will prove tough. When at you look at the conference national, there a lot of comparitively big clubs; york, torquay, oxford, cambridge, wrexham and mansfield, to name half a dozen. In the ccl, we were the biggest club in just about every aspect, now, there are a number of clubs in bss with bigger budgets, and if/when we get to conf nat, we will no longer be the best supported club in our division. The advantage of that would be less pressure, and that could be a very good thing. The debt due to buying the ground is a mill-stone round the neck, as it hampers the funding to the playing budget. But when that is cleared will give the club more financial muscle. On the playing front, it is evident that TB is preparing a young team, that will probably flourish in 2 or 3 seasons, can we wait that long? Personally, i would say yes. A timescale for league football, probably another 10 years from now.
1 2012 is probably unrealistic – but a good goal. I would be happy with 2020.
1 2014
1 2015 would be more realistic and I feel as a club we would be much better prepared.
1 a bit longer i think maybe 2015/16
1 A bit of a pipedream at present – we need to consolidate in Conference South first. And where is the big money coming from to pay for the players, without a mad benefactor ? (Ask Eric – he seems be good with money?)
2 A bit soon but very possible.
1 A definite. We have the fans to make this happen.
1 A dream we can’t afford. Kingsmeadow isn’t up to it without massive redevelopment.
1 A little early, to me. I anticipate league football in my lifetime. Assuming we get out of CS in the timeframe i expect, I expect to spend a long time in CN. That is no big issue for me. It is effectively the 5th division, with the number of ex-league clubs in it. I think we may yoyo between CN and League 2.
1 A pipe dream because of the difficulties of finding the finance to go professional while we’re paying off the ground debt.
1 A pipe dream in my view without a large input of cash.
1 A pipe dream unless a sugar daddy arrives with no personal agenda.
1 A pipe-dream – but a nice one!
1 A possibility but will need to go full-time in blue sq premier. A lot depends on how this is handled.
1 A possibility. I think we should definitely be in the Conference by then and pushing for promotion
1 A realistic but unlikely ambition. I think Aldershot are the example we are following and 10 years would be a really rapid rise, particularly when some clubs even at this level are the toys of some rich individual. We must have regard to good financial management and hope we can find the players who are committed to the shirt, something some of us fely maybe wasn’t there last season.
1 A realistic pipe-dream. It could happen, it isn’t guaranteed, but it’s worth aiming at.
1 A very realistic possibility, but will need elements of good fortune along the way. Fan base is sound but club will require more funding to progress and this is unlikely without a benefactor who is honestly a Wimbledon lover and fan at heart.
1 A worthy target but not worth shooting people over if not achieved.
1 Accords with my timetable precisely.
1 Achievable, but unlikely with the standard of other teams alongside us.
1 Achievable, by no means a pipe-dream
1 allways possible
1 Almost Realstic. Once we get to the conference the competition will be tougher but we will be in with a chance along a lot of teams. I suspect we won’t do it though and I won’t be disappointed too much. Once we get to the League the glory days will be behind us.
1 Ambitious. Ground size/location would probably affect this. Also financial concerns as these would surely increase with league position. Sadly, money talks. Would be lovely tho.
1 Anything is possible
1 Anything is possible – but we need to make sure we are ready as a club to take on League 2 football both on and off the pitch.
1 Anything is possible but money will be the limiting factor
1 Anything is possible, but hey, let’s be realistic. For every step up we take formhere it will be harder to get used to the new level, so 2012, sorry, but don’t think so.
1 Anything is possible, which is what makes the game so enjoyable. I lean more to the ‘learn to walk before you can run’ brand of thought though. Plenty of time
1 Back in the day we rose from non league to top flight (old 1st division) in a record 7 years. league 2 by 2012 definitely possible with the right signings
1 Before if possible
1 Being in the mix for it is very much realistic. Actually getting in the league and being prepared off the pitch as much as on it really is the question.
1 Bit too over optimistic. I want the club to continue to expand but at a pace which will ensure we stay solvent. There are too many clubs in peril right now, and keeping the fans we have and expanding the fan base in South London can only be a good thing. I want to see more AFC shirts on the streets than Chelsea!
1 blue square conference – division two on a dream
1 by my reckoning 3 seasons in Conf South will take us to season 2011/12 for our first in Conf National, so 2012 for league 2 would be extremely optimistic. the main difficulties will be financing a professional football club. if Dons fans (and i mean all fans) are prepared to bankroll the club then we could achieve league status by 2012. the case for increased admission prices would have to be made forcefully. after all it is our club, so we know where the money is going. the youth set up also has to start producing first team players, otherwise there could be an argument for those resources being used elswhere.
1 Club needs more income – and I don’t mean by screwing the fans. The commercial dept is a joke. The way the whole club is run is non league. I don’t bother getting any drink from the bars as there is always a stupid queue (long) – more staff needed. Likewise the more ideas needed for selling refreshments……why doesn’t the club shop sell non club sporting goods instead of having to go to the likes of JJB sports! There are a number of kids teams/youth teams – are these kids being encouraged to watch AFC? What happens when a youngster is told he isnt good enough to progress with AFC – wouldnt it be a great if they could join a WOPA side – still be play for the club and be part of the club – means they are less likely to go off and follow Chelski or others….just a thought!
1 Complete pipe-dream without access to large sums of money. Not so long as we remain fan-owned.
1 Conference 2010-11 then I reckon 5 years due to the financial constraints. So 2015 looks about right.
1 Conference National is going to be tough – expect a few years there.
1 definitely realistic. fanbase/wealth can sustain two promotions in 4years
1 Depends how much money we spend. It’s realistic if we continue our current spending trend. It’s a pipe-dream if we fall in with everyone else around us.
1 Depends how well we do against the genuinely big sides in the Conference, especially the ex-league clubs. Amount of money we’ll need to compete will require a significant review of how we raise money on a regular basis.
1 Difficult to imagine that we will be in a position to go full-time in 4 years time with the added expenses required but who knows!!
1 Do not think possible, or desirable, at this stage of our reformation unless we get a ‘cash windfall’ from somewhere.
1 Doable
1 Dreams are as real as you want to make them , yes there is no reason that AFCW cannot make league 2 by then . the only restriction will be the stadium development if any
1 Err… Why do i feel like i’m back at uni? Bearing in mind the amount of support, expertise, history and passion (is that repertition?) it seems perfectly feasable. Another more thorny question might be: do we really want to go back to fully professional football in these Ronaldinhomanía times? (did you like that – opening out at the end with a broader question).
1 Fairly realistic. Enjoy ourselves just as much in Conference though.
1 Financial aspects make it only a pipe dream
1 For financial reasons we need to spend as little time in the national Conference as possible. The expenses are the same as in League 2 but the income is less. Ideally, we should spend 3 seasons in BSS to consolidate a team which can compete well in the League, then go all out for back to back promotion. Thus we ought to be in League 2 in 5 years’ time, so 2012 is just a bit of a pipe-dream but not by much. Whatever happens, we don’t want to get into the League and then get relegated straight away.
1 Getting into the league will be very difficult as shown by the teams still in the conference after being relegated.a lot of money would be required and I think this would mean a massive re-think on our financial structuring.
1 Go for a smoke.
1 Go for it but don’t cry if we don’t make it!
1 Heart says yes – Head says get real. It will happen, especially if we’re building a young ‘unit’ to carry the club through, but I expect it to take at least 5 years
1 hopefully it will happen
1 I dont think it is realistic. The only was to progress is to get money behind us. I can see us ticking over and staying maybe in the bs premier. We would need to be full time to get into the league and I dont think we have the funds to do that. Its naive if the club think we can progress without big investment. There hasnt been a significant increase in crowds and I think people are tiring of donating.
1 I expect us to be in CS for 4 years then Conf for another 4-5 years. so League by2017.
1 I reckon once getting to the Conference we’ll be the new Aldershot, a good 4/5 years before finally making it.
1 I see gaining promotion to league 2 by 2012 as a possibility, our luck with injuries since the formation has been tedious, so assuming we can add depth to the squad and with lady luck helping us with injuries / suspensions this should be acheiveable. Promotion to league one however will be immensely difficult.
1 I see no reason that this cannot be achived. Getting out of the Confernec Premier is tough though once in the league we will stay there.
1 I suppose it will depend on finances and our ability to pay full time players and prsemably, full time coaches as well.
1 I think 3 seasons in Conf S & a further 3 in Conf National, so 2014 would be more realistic.
1 I think a place in League 2 by 2012 is realistic, but the Conference Premier is one hell of a leauge to get out of. If we can make it to the Conference Prem in 2 years i think we will have a good as chance as any.
1 I think an extra season will be needed because we have to win the FA Trophy in 2013 to continue our 25 year Wembley wins. Conference Champions the same season
1 i think as you move up it becomes more difficult. Of course there are exceptions as we have seen league clubs come down to conference and go on to get two promotions but generally working within a budget and not risking the clubs financial situation it would be exceptional to get league status that quickly. Having said that we are of course an exceptional club!!
1 I think conference south will be fairly easy to get out of, but the conference national will be much harder. I think league 2 by 2012 is doable but it’ll be tough.
1 I think getting out of the Conference is going to be hellish hard because we won’t have the funding. We’ll be up against clubs who have significant investment ploughed into them by outside backers, which we’ll never have. I’d love us to get back into the League, but we may have to accept that as a consequence of not being willing to sell owndership of the club that it’ll never happen.
1 I think it all depends on finance. If the Club can afford to go professional, then it should do so. At the moment, I feel this is completely impossible without the financial input of a sugar-daddy, which would go against the ideals I feel AFCW stand for.
1 I think it is achievable, however, there are so many variables to consider, not least the impact that the current recession may have on all clubs. We will always have the negative impact of players wanting/expecting higher wages, just be cause of who we are, but that will even itself out if we go higher, because we will not be as ‘big’ in the company of clubs who have as good as if not better following/infrastructure. The important thing is ensure that football is played in the name of ‘Wimbledon’ at as high a level as possible, without compromising our financil security
1 I think it is fairly realistic. That gives us four years….1 promotion every 2 years. One year for consolidation and one year to go up. With our support and backing, I don’t see why we can’t do it.
1 I think it is perfectly reasonable, 2 years maximum in the BSS and 3 years in the BSP whilst we consolidate, who knows, possibly even before
1 I think it is very possible provided we stick by managers rather than saying you must achieve a certain objective at the end of a season or leave. At this level we will only get better from building a side. A new manager means too many new players who do not necessarily gel quickly as a team.
1 I think it might take a season or two longer unless this new young team is made up with youngsters who all go all the way in football but then if they do we are bound to loose one or two up the pyramid. We will need some luck but yes we can get there.
1 I think maybe by 2018.
1 I think possible but more money need to fund team
1 i think pushing it, i just think a lot needs to be done at the club. im looking more for a sense of professionalism, and it just llooks to me that we need shed loads of money to do it. I think it can be done, but getting out of these leagues will be tougher. But hopefully we can make a national name for ourselves by doing well in the fa cup and getting some big draws and TV money.
1 I think that is optomistic. I hope it will be by 2015. That’s ten years after they were formed.
1 I think the 2014-15 season is more realistic
1 I would be happy for us to become a non-league superpower for a few years. Well respected yet envied by other conference and even league 2 teams. Would love another few FA Cup giant killing heroics before promotion to the ‘Fizzy League’
1 I’d be happy to be in the Conference National by then. We’d probably have to be full-time to survive in the national divisions, which will mean having cleared a substantial part of our debt.
1 I’m not sure it bothers me greatly. Provided we are still financially sound, and enjoying the football, who cares about league position? (The very point missed by some past custodians of the old dons).
1 if it a pipe-dream then let’s give up now
1 If it as just down to football I’d say yes. I think that gates and ground, whilst excellent for non-league, need sustained improvement to support league football.
1 If it happens I will be very happy, but I am content with having a team to watch!! In my opinion I think it will take a lot longer than 4 years to reach League 2. I would prefer the club to learn to walk properly before it can run, i.e take it’s time to reach the heady heights of league football again (if it ever does!).
1 If it was a pipe-dream, I wouldn’t bother. Surely we all aspire to achieve the highest possible level for our club. There is no limit! Even in our premiership days it could be argued that we were out of our depth, but hey, we spent 14 years there! I started watching WFC in 1983 and spent the next ten years enjoying an incredible journey. Can it be repeated? I think anything is possible. As for Q.4 and a natural level…what nonsense! As predictable as the premiership is coming, the rest of the footballing leagues are more open and anything is possible with the RIGHT team. Natural level? Interms of attendance? Income? History? We exist to annoy the purists! That is why we have been a second favoured team for many supporters around the country.
1 If not earlier!!
1 if the “blowtorch through butter” scenario occurs in the BSS then League 2 by 2012 *might* be possible though I think it’s unlikely.
1 If we can attract and keep good players, increase our gates which will generate money to pay for them, and with the occassional bit of luck i think it is possible.
1 If we can get the finances in place, and get going full time right, then why not? Would rather however not risk going bust just for the sake of league football.
1 Impossible to answer – we could get lucky and sweep through CS and CN but it’s more likely, in my opinion, that we will have a few seasons in CS before settling down eventually as a CN club.
1 It all comes down to money and whether we can develop sustainable external revenue sources to fund such a rise. I can’t see it coming from one-off fundraising events so we should be looking around for opportunities to develop now. I certainly see Conference as attainable and after that all that would be needed was a last play-off place to give us a crack at the League. Certainly not a pipe-dream but it may be straight back down again if we are not prepared for it.
1 It could be done, but can it be done in a financially stable fashion? The club needs to be on a firm footing, so if it takes an extra couple of years, so be it.
1 It depends a lot on what happens in the wider world of football I think.
1 It is a possibility, but more realistic would be three years in our current leave and up to 5 years in the conference.
1 It is a real possibility but at what cost and risk to our future as a club.It must not threaten the gains that have been made. Aldershot should be the model to follow to achieve our ambitions.
1 It is an entirely financial question. If we accept that the club will reach a finite point where voluntary support and donation will take us without external investment then there will be a natural ceiling. No idea where this is but to ensure survival and push for promotion from the BS Prem will require a full-time squad and that needs more money than we have now.
1 It is probably unlikely to happen, though on paper, it is only 2 promotions. Given the success of previously promoted Ryman teams in this division we could easily accidentally be in a position to get promoted this season – albeit via the playoffs – and if that happens we’ll take it. The problem then is getting the club right for a further push on, the question of full time playing staff becoming more of an issue financially.
1 It is ralistic, a lot is dependant on board as well as supporters.
1 It is realistic, but we have to realise that many teams with far more experience than us, have been trying to achieve the same goal. I think we will struggle to compete in financial terms with the top half of Conference clubs due to our prudent cash management. This will affect us in the short term (5 years) but we may benefit as more and more sides go down the ‘Halifax’ route. I also believe that our fan base will not grow by too much unless we have continued success or play attractive football. Having said that, I don’t think it will fall greatly either.
1 It is realistic.I suppose it depends on where our priorities lie.Do we invest in KM/pay off loan or put more ££ behind the playing staff.There is a balance , but I believe that Erik/the board will make the right decisions.
1 It must be realistic – we are not in business to tread water in any league
1 It should be our aim.
1 It will depend on whether or not we turn professional. My belief is that whilst we have a large supporter base it is a misconception that we have vast sums of money to throw around. Competition from here on in is very strong. I think that if we are out of the conference south in 3 years that would represent a significant achievement and as for the conference national to crack that in 5 would be remarkable.
1 It will take a lot of work – ground, budget, work ethic. 2012 seems very close.
1 It would be FANTASTIC! But then, just being able to support my local team in whichever division we are is is FANTASTIC! I cheer a goal and vitory no less in our lowly division than I ever did in the Premiershit. We have no divine right to be any higher than we are – I’m just happy to have a club to support…
1 It would be nice but IMO the club is just not ready to be a full time club in a proffesional league in 3 years time. IMO 4/5 in the Conference divisions will enable the rest of the club to ‘catch up’ with the first team. I’d love to see some home grown talent coming through the ranks and taking the Dons into the full time game at a steady pace.
1 It would be surprising. Aldershot took 16 years so a realistic target would be to try to beat that.
1 It would require a major change in what the DT membership considers to be acceptable ways of getting money into the club.
1 It’s a lot to ask. I think you need to build the solid foundations first. Continue with ground improvements, get loan paid off etc. etc. The football side of things will then naturally fall into place. I would be happy with league football within the next 10 years – but who’s to say the conference won’t go full time in the future!
1 It’s a very big ask but not impossible, it would require an amazingly quick promotion from the conf south in order to do it.
1 It’s all about the rub of the green! We were good enough for the Ryman playoffs 3 years in a row and so could just as easily have been promoted to the conference 2 season earlier. I don’t think there is a massive step up from Ryman prem to Blue Squre South so I think it is realistic to be aiming for/expecting playoff finishes within the next season or two. Then it’s just a bit of a lottery. I think however the real progress for the club will come when (touch wood) we reach the BS Premier.
1 It’s possible and I would certainly expect us to be in the Conference by then and challenging for a place in league 2
1 It’s possible but not probable. Two promotions in four seasons is a big ask, especially considering how competitive the Conference is. Although I think we have everything in place to get promoted from the CS, the leap between the top end of that league and the top end of the Conf is probably the biggest between divisions in non-league. I think we will be a Conf team for at least five seasons, but am happy to be proved wrong!!
1 It’s possible, but will be very difficult to achieve. Particularly when we reach the conference, as attendances and finances even up. It will become much more about footballing/coaching ability and less about money. With regards to question 4, it’s unimportant which league we are in providing we are always strive to improve our level.
1 It’s realistic with a bit of patience. within 4-5 seasons i would expect us to be challenging the top of the conf
1 Its a possibility,but realistically i think we will probably be in the conference.When we reach the national conference we will be on a par with several other teams in terms of support and finance so there for it is hard to predict when we will get in to the football league.
1 Its my concern that we will get stuck in the conference premier, its difficult to see where we can realistically get the kind of money to push for the league, although 1 lucky season with a few well discovered players and good management its definately a small possibility rather than a pipe-dream.
1 Its not a pipe dream, but a lot of teams have tried this and failed. We should not be disappointed. It is nice to be free of the Rymans. A lot of other teams think we will do well in BS South.
1 Its not impossible, but its still ambitious, it can be achieved however by this club. I feel that it is a good target to have by such an ambitious club, but would not be upset by not making it.
1 its possible with gradual development of the squad. we can’t afford to sign average players each summer just to let them go the next. work harder in the transfer market.
1 Just a dream at the moment but who knows what this club can achieve, be nice to see us challenging for a league spot in say 6-8 years but that would mean being full time and I would assume that we would need to pay of some of our huge debt befoe we can achive this!
1 Just about possible
1 Just about possible.
1 Just about realistic I’d guess 08/09 Conf South (mid table) 09/10 Conf South (playoffs) 10/11 Conf 11/12 Conf (promoted) typing that out has made me realise 4 years for those two divisions seems a little unrealistic!
1 Keep it real.
1 League 2 by 2012 is realistic. We`ll play in Conf.South season 2008/09 , and 2009/10 win promotion to the COnference :) and 2011 or 2012 we`ll going up to League Two
1 let’s see how we measure up in s/con first
1 lets go for it
1 likely to be a pipe dream as it has bene shown by aides rleegated to the Conference fro mthe football league that it is gettign harder to get back up so the league is getting stronger. For the question belwo (4) would be helpful if there was an inbetween league 2 and conf option :D
1 Millstone – let’s just grow sustainably and see what happens, with hope rather than expectation. Emphasis must be on long-term viability and foundations, not short-term goals.
1 more important to have a stable financial situation improved ground if that leads to league football so be it.
1 My recollections of League football are of a hideously sanitised cash cow. I understand why we should be in the League and that we are destined to be back there soon, just wish that everyone didn’t seem to be in such a rush to get there.
1 Mystic Meg says 2013 – 50 years after the Amateur Cup and 25 years after F.A. Challenge Cup wins.
1 Need to pull our socks up. The Conferance is going to prove more challanging than the RPL.
1 Neither. I think it will be 10 years or so before league football arrives
1 No harm in dreaming, but priority must be stability and long term goals.
1 no probably 2015 but would be great if it was sooner
1 No way. Mid table conference at best. Turning pro will be biggest step for us.
1 Not a pipe dream at all – but it will take a monumental effort !!
1 not bothered as long as we don’t go down from this level
1 Not by 2012, more like 2014. Quite happy to hang around the Conference Premier for a bit, though.
1 Not impossible but will be very hard work and will need huge commitments (Financially) from the fans. I’m not a person who needs to go back to League football just because it’s our birthright … I’m quite enjoying non league so wouldn’t want to see us push ourselves too hard financially to realise a dream.
1 Not quite a pipe dream, but it would be a phenomenal achievement. Right on the very edge of what we could realistically expect, but unlikely.
1 not realistic
1 Not really realistic may be a bit longer to be ready for the League
1 Not thinking about it too much. I’d be thrilled by getting into the Conference National and could easily come to terms with a few years spent there.
1 On the fringes of reality and pipe-dream. It would be great if achieved but not a disaster if missed. Trying to get a copy of the the online WUP without a tag is real pipe dream.
1 optimistic but possible
1 Otside possability. Would be happy in the Conference national. Wouldn’t want to play premiership football any more. Ruined by money. So 2012 an outside possability, would be happy in league 1 or 2.
1 Pipe – Dream
2 pipe dream
1 Pipe dream – but let’s have some fun trying!
1 Pipe dream – conference is v difficult to get out of.
1 Pipe dream – conference would be very hard to crack
1 Pipe dream – it underestimates the number of good clubs in the conference and the room for improvement in many of those in the conference south. Besides would we be capable of going from a well run amateur (in the nicest possible sense) club to a professional club in 4 years and surviving without losing much of what we have now?
1 Pipe dream – the recession will affect the amount of money supporters can pump into the club over the next five years. Loan repayments will have to take precedence over player salaries, as already shown with the reduction in the salary budget for next season.
1 Pipe dream – ultimately we’ll get there but it will take time to build the team and infrastructure necessary. It takes a lot of cash to switch between levels and the BS Prem is extremely competitive.
1 pipe dream – we would have to paid off the debt to get a wage bill to challenge the top end of the conference and even then we will still need more sponsorship to help with that
1 Pipe dream but we won’t be far away. Maybe by 2014
1 Pipe dream i think. The club should be ambitious, yes, but we shouldn’t be too ambitious. Stability built on a good foundation is what is required. If that can be achieved by 2012, fine, but we must not sacrifice stability for ambition.
1 Pipe dream if we can’t get a clear focus and consensus on where we want to go. There is too much in-fighting with various factions and no one clear view of where we are going and how we are going to get there. We get too caught up in making bold political staements and not getting on and doing it. I don’t want my comments to detract from some fo the talented people we have and the sacrifices that they make, but I do feel that there is too much listening to the politcal cliques and not enough to the groad fan base. The short answer is that until we get a firm financial model in place for the club (however painful that might be) that both safeguards our future whilst also refleciting our unque circumstances, we can never make a viable and sustained push to meet our ambitions.
1 pipe dream, but I have always liked pipes. Prefer to rise through the League’s at the pace we deserve rather than some target, which causes problems. There is such a thing as outstripping off the field performance, and Nuneaton have already what happens.
1 Pipe dream, Conference lot harder than most might think
1 Pipe dream, the level of full time professional clubs in the conference and the amount of bigger clubs both financially and support base wise will make it difficult to compete at the very top of the conference.
2 Pipe dream.
1 Pipe dream. As we go up the pyrimid we will not be such a big club so will have to show patientce to achieve our dreams
1 Pipe dream. At some stage to suceed, money is going to be needed to sustain a professional wage structure. Suspect that at Conference and above, players play for the ££££ rather than the principles and the love of the game/team
1 Pipe dream. Conference by 2012 and making progress on our debts would be preferable to a boom or bust charge back into the league.
1 Pipe dream. Full-time football in the Conference would be a more realistic aim for 2012.
1 Pipe dream. I reckon we’ll be in the Conference National for several years. No complains from me though. Out of the Ryman is what I wanted.
1 Pipe Dream. If you allow for the current debt to be cleared in 5 years + ? Where does the investment come from to launch a raid on a FL place? Unless you are finally going to let some corporate nomark in
1 Pipe Dream. Pete Winkleman Asda be right
1 Pipe dream. There are some big clubs in the conference, with budgets to match. Given our debts, ground issues etc, I think it’s a bit too much for us to be in the league that soon.
1 Pipe Dream. Too much to do on and off the pitch before we take that step
1 Pipe dream. We as a club do not have the resources to compete with sugar daddy clubs and the ever increasing wage demands of players could slow our future progress. Does that bother me, no, because whatever level we play at I will always support my team.
1 Pipe dream. We will be competing with bank-rolled, full-time professional clubs with significant outside investment. Our crowds will not be enough to compete with them on their own. There will have to be fundamental changes to the way we run ourselves if League 2 by 2012 is required as investing in youth and hoping they come to fruition by then will not be enough. Kingsmeadow is not good enough for League 2 football (certainly not if you want to watch in any sort of comfort).
1 Pipe dream. With the current business model we don’t have the resources to get into the league (and stay there). And frankly I couldn’t give a stuff. This is about more than just on-the-field success.
1 pipe- dream
3 pipe-dream
1 Pipe-dream – Conf. Prem is easily attainable, but beyond that will take a lot of work. We will have to be more professional on and off the field to maximise our income in order to compete with the big money teams that are pushing for promotion. Added to this we would need a great deal of good luck, after all this is football we are talkin about.
1 pipe-dream ….more. realistic 2015/16 season
1 Pipe-dream. But playing well in the Conference; full time etc would be better stability for the club then going straight into League 2 and gives us a chance to find more fans and improve both team and stadium.
1 Pipe-dream. Cost of running the club will be tough enough in the Conference Prem.
1 Pipedream
1 Pipedream – at least 3 years in South then ditto for National. Unless we can afford to buy in players at high fees we will not make it, and with our debts rising quite dramatically for stadium etc there is not enough leeway for increasing the playing budget to accomodate the purchase of such players (unless we get a benefactor who will bankroll without any strings!)
1 Pipedream – I expect us to be in Conference / Conference South.
1 pipedream – more clubs with similar and better infrastructures than ours as we climb higher
1 Pipedream, debts and improvements will stymie the playing budget.
1 Pipedream.
1 Plausible, progression without a firm foundation is less critical now we’ve escaped the Turdeyship. Not wanting to see the club progress too fast without retaining sustainability in the future.
1 Possibility and worth fighting for
1 possibility if we have some luck but current attendances unlikely to keep us there for long given current levels of funding!
1 possibility. I think we will get stuck in the conference until we get some serious cash.
1 possible
1 Possible – 2014 more likely
1 Possible – but unlikely.
1 Possible but a stretch – though we should still aim for it
1 Possible but i think it will take longer
1 possible but it won’t be the end of the world if we don’t!
1 Possible but not essential at all cost
1 possible but unlikely.
1 Possible certainly.
1 Possible rather than realistic. Not a pipe-dream but I would think it more likely that we might be in the conference by then.
1 Possible, but 2015 more likely
1 Possible, but by no means a necessity
1 Possible, but difficult. Happy to wait a bit longer if it meant we were more able to clear the ground debt.
1 Possible, but not realistic (neither was 77-86 promotions!). More importantly, is it desirable, given the sacrifices we will all have to make to sell our souls (or sell our children) to pay for such an adventure. Lets be ambitious for now and see where it takes us.
1 Possible, but unlikely.
1 Possible.
1 Possible. Finance the big question.
1 Possibly a bit ambitious but hopefully not far away.
1 Possibly but I think the Conference is going to be very, very hard to get of.
1 Possibly unrealistic
1 Probably a little unlikely – not sure we have the budget to compete with other “bigger” clubs. We need to think creativley about how we increase revenue into AFC.
1 Probably in between the two I think – I’d reckon on 3 years in BSS, then 3 or 4 in the Conference, which would give us League 2 football by 2014/15. I hopw we can do this faster of course!
1 probably just too far but maybe closer than we think.
1 probably too soon – what’s the rush anyway – let’s get some of the debt paid first & build gradually
1 Promotion to the Conference National is a realistic achievement. The challenge from there will be how/if we progress to a full-time club. I think we are learning quickly off the field, so would hope for a fairly smooth transition, possibly to a hybrid professional / semi-pro playing staff. I hope that by 2012 we would at least be challenging for play-offs in the Conference.
1 Quite realistic – why not, 3,500 fan base, good structure and management. But why the rush, steady progress. I would be quite happy to reach the conference and stay there for a while anyway.
1 realisic
19 Realistic
1 realistic – straight through BSS, then 2 or 3 seasons in the BSP. Young squad, good crowds & a manager who knows what’s what.
1 Realistic as long as we get a bit of luck in Conf South over the next year or 2.
1 Realistic but challenging. We need to resolve the eternal conundrum – that the current set up may not fund the climb into the league – we need big cash injections. The questions is – for what in return? How about a seat on the board with a vote that is easily out-voted (the point being it’ll make decisions transparent to a large investor but not allow them to overturn the rights of the supporters).
1 realistic but ground issues to be resolved
1 realistic but luck required!
1 Realistic but only just, I would give it 5+ years from now personally
1 Realistic but scary
1 Realistic but we are all human and prone to making mistakes.
1 Realistic but wont cry if it doesn’t happen.
1 Realistic but… we need to clear out debt first and get ourselfs stabalised so a few yrs in the conf leagues wouldnt go a miss.
1 Realistic by 2015 I’d say. We have the ambition, the fanbase and the infrastructure to get up to the conference within 3 years. Then with the change to full-time I’d say about 4 years until we realistically have a chance to make back into the league. We also have a great visionary whose feet remain on the ground in Erik. He’ll get us there.
1 Realistic by totally dependent on the manager building a team
1 realistic if the club grows within its means and current framework
1 Realistic if we can generate some £’s to compete for wages for the best players.
1 Realistic if we stop taking on more and more debt
1 realistic most certainly
1 realistic objective
1 Realistic to aim for 2012, but we won’t do it by then in my opinion.
1 Realistic yes. But as long as we are prepared off the pitch. Wouldn’t want to get promoted to League 2 and then get relegated
1 realistic!
1 Realistic, but feel we will not be able to achieve being a fans funded club alone.
1 Realistic, but I won’t be gutted if we don’t stay there.
1 realistic, but may take one or two seasons longer in all likelihood.
1 Realistic, but maybe unlikely would be great but I think conference football would be a great acheivement
1 Realistic, but only with controlled budgeting.
1 Realistic, but that is a far as we will (should) go and it will be very hard and we will need a LOT of luck
1 Realistic, but unlikely. If we make it by 2020 I won’t be unhappy.
1 Realistic, if we make do with what we have and get in the conference this season. Tough but possible.
1 Realistic, just about!
1 Realistic, just.
1 Realistic, we must maintain the momentum
1 realistic, we should be able to get out of bscs in two seasons and would like to see the old wimbledon team spirit back in conf
2 Realistic.
1 Realistic. Has to be the aim to get the infrastructure and palying team ready for this level. By leaving the Ryman it feels like the playing side is now catching up with the off field devlopments, these must go hand in hand over these next crucial 5 years. We have the board and management team to build this organicaly but feel we all have to face the possibility of someone “owning” a large portion of the club to make final step as the Prem League will push down better players and money further down the chain so our ability to grow will hit a point soon when we need a huger cash injection.
1 Realistic. In Conference next season after going up as champions. Two years there and we still would have almost highest attendence, and our attendence and commercial (sponsorship etc) income would increase meaning we’d be able to compete with the big boys of non-league. Increased media attnetion if return to league possible and at least one good cup/trophy run. Setanta money. etc etc
1 realistic. Just. To be honest I’d be perfectly happy to be comfortable in the conference. It’s sort of about right for our ground. I think we’d struggle in League 2 permanently.
1 Realistic. We know it is possible with our resources to get out of conference south. I suspect we will find enough to get out of conference.
1 realitic
1 Reasonably realistic, although getting out of the Conference will be difficult. The main obstacle will probably be money or coming up against clubs that have sponsors with very deep pockets.
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1 Should have been the clubs mission statement from day one. Back in the league by 2012..
1 Somewhere between the two. But let’s not rush there like lemmings. All in good time…..
1 Somewhere between the two. Not impossible, but the hardest challenge we will face, assuming we get into the National Conference.
1 Somewhere in between
1 That would be great but not at the expense of giving up fans’ ownership of club. I think it may take longer to get out of the Conference once we get there.
1 The club’s financial capability to go full-time will determine whether League 2 by 2012 is realistic or a pipe-dream.
1 The heart says realistic, the head says realistic on the pitch but that we shall not be ready off it.
1 the Jump from conference south to conference national is massive so unrealistic.Must go full time within 2 years
1 Think this will be ‘pushing it’ and I think we’ll have to see at least one year of full time players before this is realistic.
1 To survive, let alone prosper, in the Conference National we will have to go full-time and that carries a great number of risks for our club. Increasingly there are big ex-League clubs in there too which can more than match us for stadia, fanbase and finance. Any further progression beyond the Conference will largely rely on us getting lucky, in my very honest opinion.
1 tough but possible
1 Tough one… let’s make it 2013…
1 Two promotions in 4 years will be too difficult especially when we will need to focus on the stadium/debt repayment plus the transition to a FT playing squad of minimum 16 players
1 Unlikely and probably undesirable.
1 Unlikely as the conference “proper” will be tough. I would hope we would be competitive in that division and at least troubling the play-offs within 5/6 years.
1 Unlikely but not impossible.
1 Unlikely I’d say but I’d like to see us as a top Conference side by then. I think we may take a few years to get out of each Conference division. Maybe League 2 by 2015
1 unlikely!
1 Unlikely, and we’d need to grow the club (i.e. professional, more seats etc to support this lofty place. We should be a strong contender in the Conference by then.
1 Unlikely, but not a pipe dream.
1 Unrealistic
1 unrealistic and a dangerous belief- putting too much pressure on ourselves which is detrimental to success
1 Unrealistic givwen club set up and current financial debt
1 Unrealistic that we could get out of the Conference National until we could go full-time, and for that I believe we would need to have the bank loans etc. repaid first.
1 Unrealistic. I belive we still have a lot of learning, growing up and saving to do. I cannot see us getting professional enough to do ourselves justice by 2012. By saving I mean generating income and using it to pay off some of our obligations. That way we will have money available for a sustained (more than one season) push towards League 2.
1 Using hindsight as a barometer I think that this league now contains too many good sides for a quick in and out. We could take five years to make it. Yes the playoffs look realistic with a settled side but winning them is a different matter. If the manager is willing to really invest in young talent combined with quality experienced signings we may get lucky earlier. I would like to see the ground debt paid before we really invest in the team to get us back to the league. I think in all 2014 could see our league debut.
1 Veerrryy optimistic – I find it hard to see us competing with the cash rich Conference clubs while we have a significant debt to service…. unless we all agree to a sugar daddy funding us… and I don’t think that’s very likely!
1 Very realistic
1 Very realistic, we are well managed in all senses of the word and well supported.
1 Very realistic. I wouldn’t expect us to be in the CS for too long – people keep taking about consolidation but I don’t believe players such as Inns would sign for us, leaving another team challenging for promotion just for the prospect of the upper reaches of mid-table. On reaching the conference, becoming an established full time team will be essential. Off the pitch management is very good, and if the odd cup run (like Havant this year) happened for us, the cash would certianly come in handy. Up until the League 2 we’ll be an attractve proposition for hungry young players, and good passionate players who want to play infront of big crowds.
1 very unlikely, but I wouldn’t complain.
1 was a pipe dream but now fully realistic
1 We could make it depending upon our funding options. Our exploits to date indicate we can bring in the talent but we need to maintain some consistency with the team makeup, more so than we had last season.
1 We have been a very big fish in a small pond, the reverse of what we were used to as a fully pro club. I think once we reach the main conference league, we will be up against other big fish. We may also not have the financial clout of a sugar daddy, so sponsorship is going to be key. Importantly unless we have a really excellent man of the moment manager, we could be in the conference for some time. At Wimbledon that man was Dave Bassett, who had few resources, but his approach was cut through the crap, be fit, be direct, respect no one. I think DB will be good for one more promotion, but possibly not the league. Equally both supporters and players will have further to travel, so the days of 1000, travelling away may be behnid us, at this level and the travelling may also impact performance. Both of these factors can be mitigated to a degree, but also at a cost. AFC have very sensibly taken the commercial side very seriously, but in order to move forward we need to increase both commercial revenue and the gates. I’m old enough to remember that when we first came into the football league we had a great fan base that was undone, by poor performance and threats of mergers and moves to Milton Keynes. So there are lessons to be learned from the past. Human nature is a complex thing (and I speak as a psychologist and coach) and its really easy to alienate people, even when you mean well. For example the Nuts TV piece was really great for our profile, but its my sense it also ruffled a few feathers by focusing on a few individuals, even though these were pretty key figures. At present I really think we are not tapping enough into the local community at Kingston and locals may well view us as a private club for outsiders, so our efforts and thanks to the local people need to equal our efforts in Merton. They need to feel it is there club too. Equally a priority must be to make the Wimbledon brand more visible around the ground. In Question four I have selected Premier league, purley because that as before should be our ambition. Our history shows it is possible, if you have the right people, in the right place, at the right time. I expect that our most comfortable level though will be league 1.
1 We would have to be very lucky to get there by 2012, the Conference Premier is very difficult to get out of.
1 Who knows. It certainly could happen but we must not expect it
2 Why not.
1 Why not? – As long as the Pol Pot Year 0 Wimbledon Radical Dave Spart Fundamentalists are either marginalised or learn to realise and appreciate realise that wealthier fans are part of the community too and are entitled to and should be encouraged to support the playing budget. We may not what a Sugar Daddy, but what’s wrong with several Sugar Diddies? (I’ve just made that term up, btw)
1 why not? just need to keep slogging away at palying good football and pay off the debts (oh and beat the Hampton and Richmond cheating divers)
1 With the right signings, we can do it.
1 within 5 – 10 years
1 without continous donations to the playing budget it is not realistic, we need a better plan to ensure we can have a budget on a level field with other teams, without relying on outside help.
1 would be nice, but would not want to overstretch.
1 Would need a major change in funding or getting back to home crowds over 4,000
1 Would need to know the viability in terms of could we finance a club at that level or would it be a bridge to far ? Personally I would not want us struggling lurching from crisis to crisis
1 yes
1 yes 1 think it can bedone
1 yes yes yes!
4. What do you consider AFCW’s natural level to be?

Blue Square (Conference) South   2.2% (9)
Blue Square (Conference) Premier   26.5% (110)
League 2   38.3% (159)
League 1   14.5% (60)
Championship   4.3% (18)
Premier League   2.2% (9)
Any league, as long as it is above MK Dongs   12.0% (50)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
5. Our attendances have decreased since the CCL days. Do the attendances still inspire you, are about what you expected or do you find them disappointing?

Better than expected   22.4% (93)
Just as expected   57.1% (237)
Worse than expected   20.5% (85)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
6. What is your stance on playing Franchise FC should our paths cross in a Cup competition, or futurely in the League?

# Response
1 It’s history now. Apart from the owner the staff and players will have had little to do with the situation and as such we should not hold it agianst them.AFC Wimbledon as a club should rise above this situation and go forward without holding any grudges!
1 Still bitter re Franchise,that will not go away until we have got back into the league at least.If our paths cross their would be a divide between AFC Wimbledon fans.Ithink I would go and support the team.Obviously Id try to use counterfeit money to get in! We def should NOT forfeit the fixture.that would not look good.
1 Absolutely. This is increasinly less about Franchise FC in my eyes and more about Wimbledon.
1 Although refusing to play them is probably the right thing to do, I think it might be a case of us cutting off our nose to spite our face. No-one will really care if we do refuse to play them I think – some might admire us but I don’t think, realistically, it will get us anywhere. Better to beat them, but if we lose it would be horrendous… Oh I’m torn!
1 Ambivalent. Worried but excited.
1 Any fixture be it cup or league will be played, there is no question about that. However, my view is that we should refuse an allocation for any away game on principle. Sadly, this is unlikely to happen and even sadder, a number of our fans would be falling over themselves in the rush to get tickets to such an away fixture after all that’s been said and done….
1 As a club, we must be professional and fulfill whatever fixtures that are drawn for us. Should our fans attend … (the question you did not ask) well I would leave it up to them, but I would encourage anyone who felt unable to control themselves to stay away. We have the upper ground in this argument, lets not lose it.
1 As much as I despise them, I would not boycott any match in which we played them. I would want to be there giving AFCW 100% support.
1 At home: Definately maximun attendence with minimum tickets for their ‘customers’ in an uncovered corner. Give them a true “welcome to hell” reception and dick on them all over the pitch. Away: Tricky, wouldn’t want to go to stadia moo but would find it difficult to not want to go to give them hell from the stands and support the boys.
1 Ban their fans and board from coming to our ground
1 Beat em
1 beat the b******s
1 Been practicing my bad language, have tried to move on, but whenever I hear their name mentioned anywhere I end up kicking the cat,dog, tiger etc. Can’t wait for 1st meeting, however long it takes. Bring on the scum…..
1 behind closed doors only
1 Behind closed doors, especially if we were at home, too dangerous to allow our fans anywhere near their team and fans.
1 Better question would be “Do I trust myself to go”
1 Bloodbath !
1 Boycot the cup game, but stand outside the ground. Smash them to bits in the league, ban them from our place, and not go to theirs!
1 Boycott
1 Boycott an away game. Home game, turn up in numbers and show them we are Wimbkledom.
1 Boycott any game at MK. Make home game for home fans only.
1 Boycott if a MK, play and beat them
1 Break their legs!
2 bring it on
1 Bring it on!
1 Can’ wait for the day, may lead to an impromptu night in a cell but my god it will be worth it. The Murdering vermin will deserve all they have coming.
1 Can’t wait for the day until we play the low lifes.
1 Cant wait to hammer em!
1 Certainly would not go to their hovel, but would probably attend if it was at KM, (I think) the pain still hurts
1 Cross that bridge when it comes. Makes me sick even thinking about them.
1 Cup – Withdraw. League – No choice. Make sure we know the rules.
1 Cup at home – I would attend and would hope the club would do all it could to ensure that ‘costs’ meant that Franchise wouldn’t see any money. Cup away – I would go to the venue to cheer the team off the coach but would refuse to enter the stadium and hope to take part in an organised, peacefull but very vocal anti-Franchising demonstration outside the stadium. League match at home – attend as we keep money Away – boycot or as for the cup game if any demonstration was planned.
1 Cup game — support the team home or away, as cup profits are split. League — support wholeheartedly at home; unsure about the away game until it arises.
1 Cup No League yes
1 Depends if we beat them or not! We should play them at home, if we drew them away then I don’t think I would go and give them my money… but if we had a chance of beating them then I might… dilemas!
1 despite all the protestations the game will have to go ahead.
1 Difficult one. In Cups we may have to take a stand. League might be different
1 Difficult one. My head says boycott the match, my heart says be there to holler the boys to victory and abuse Franchise as much as possible. The the thing is we will breach rules if we don’t play them and will be fined. If we boycott as supporters then the team won’t get the backing and support that they deserve and need, so will be handicapped.
1 Do it. I will attend the Home Game. As for the away I really don’t know. I’ll Do the same as everybody else.
1 Do not wish to EVER play them. It won’t bring the best out of me on the day. I’d expect a hostile atmosphere, wherever the game was played. Hope not to meet them and would be unlikely to attend. Too emotional!
1 Don’t care. MK is not in my A to Z.
1 Don’t care. Wouldn’t go there. It might be good exposure for the club I suppose.
1 Don’t want it. There could be trouble. Winkie would use his media pets to generate good publicity for the Franchise. Can so no positives in playing them even if we win (which we probably wouldn’t do if we met them now)
1 Don’t want to and would be concerned how some of our fans would react
1 Don’t want to be beaten by them. I don’t waste my time thinking of them.
1 Don’t want to. I wouldn’t go if it happened.
1 Dont care only worry about our result.
1 Dreading it as they are getting a good side together !!! The year or so when we were doing the protests was Ok but saw a couple of incidents where it started to cross the line (Watford away springs to mind where you felt it was going to turn nasty). One of the reasons I followed the Dons was because it was so friendly. An AFCW and McDongs game will kick off big time, wouldnt go to the game as the atmosphere would be really nasty.
1 enjoy giving them a thrashing
1 Get on with it. The past has passed. Play ‘em, beat ‘em.
1 Go ahead.
1 Go in and give more support to our team than we ever have in any game.
1 go there under duress and then accidently burn the place to the ground, oh and winning of course
1 Go to the game and support AFCW!
1 gotta support the boys wherever
1 hate the scum,but if league rules state we must play them or loose points etc,i would play them if need be behind closed doors for their safety
1 Hmm a difficult one. I actually don’t care much about Milton Keynes Dons, but I wouldn’t go to a game if we were drawn against them (just because I would anticipate there would be trouble and I wouldn’t want a part of that).
1 home, play em, smash em, away, boycott, protest
1 Hope we never have to meet. The game should go ahead, but thoughts have to go into security and possibly have the game played behind closed doors to save any fines we will endure.
1 Hopefully never, there will be a lot of “trouble” should they come to our place. Doubt anyone would want to go there, maybe boycott outside or something, but i’d save my petrol and ticket money and give it to the Dons.
1 I am undecided on how I feel. I certainly would not attend an away fixture. I would just have to see how I felt at the time.
1 I cannot express how strong my object is to playing that sham of a club. If our paths should ever cross in a cup competition I would fully support the club refusing to accept the fixture in order not to legitmise their existence as a football club by playing them in a competitive match. If this necessitates withdrawing from or being expelled from the competition in question then I think this would be an acceptable price (although I might think twice if it were a league fixture!).
1 I don’t recognise MK so the game won’t exist.
1 I don’t see why we should suffer penalties by not playing them, though I wouldn’t seek such a game, and I almost certainly wouldn’t attend.
1 I don’t suppose we could refuse to play league fixtures against them as sanctions from the league would be severe. However we could, perhaps, take a moral stance in a cup match & refuse to play.
1 I don’t want to share gate money with them, or mix with their hangers-on [can't call them fans!] But I would have to decide at the time and talk to other AFCW fans.
1 I don’t want us ever to play the cunts. Ever.
1 I feel we must behave as responsible adults and cut out all this hate. Hate never served anyone any good. But we have to make sure we stuff them on the pitch!
1 I hate htem I always will I would rather we blew up their concret cow ground personally! I owuld never set foot inside their stadium if we did play them, I would hope the Club would bend every know rul and refuse hippitality etc if we had to . Me I’ll be the one outside with my placard
1 I have no stance. I would enjoy abusing their deluded fools from the terraces and I could understand emotions running high. I would not want any violence nor would I want our club to entertain their officials. Although this may be unavoidable and if necessary I hope our officaicials act with dignity whilst never appearing to condone the scum.
1 I hope it never happens, but if it does, I’d probably boycott the away game and get vicious at the home game.
1 I hope we batter them if we do play them.
1 I hope we never do.
1 I hope we win.
1 i just hope we beat them
1 I loathe them with a passion. I am not sure if I would pay to visit their ground, probably not.
1 I never want to play them in any competition. I would never pay to attend any game where they received even a proportion of my money.
1 I really dont care anymore. I put all my energy into supporting Wimbledon. Too much time is wasted on hatred of a team that really dont care.
1 I still feel bitterly betrayed by the ex-owners of the club, however we have moved on and I don’t bother looking for thier results to lose. I would definately not go to any game at thier place.
1 I think it would be disaster – there would be a lot of violence that people outside of AFC wouldn’t understand and could end in points decuction, loss of respect and some broken bones.
1 I think it would be super to play them, if it was at their place i would only pay the ticket price and not buy anything at or in the ground!
1 I think we should play them and stuff the shit out of them!
1 I think we should play them, beat them, and burn their fucking ground down.
1 I think we should play them. Like it or not, they are rapidly becoming accepted by the footballing fraternity. Any punishment for not playing them would in my opinion outweigh the moral high ground we would take. Plus, I would love it if we could beat them, and we would struggle to ignore the financial windfall that would result from the fixture – everyone would want to see it and it would surely be televised
1 I used to be of the opinion that I would not go to their ground but I have to say that I will attend and support our team in cup games and only boycott the away league game.
1 I want us to destroy them
1 I will attend because I support my team, whilst there may be good reasons not to, I positively support AFC Wimbledon rather than ‘not support FFC’.
1 I will be guided by the club and WISA
1 I WILL GO AND ENJOY WATCHING US BEAT THEM.
1 I will never watch a game between us and Franchise, the inevitable violence combined with the fact I refuse to ever watch them play decides this for me.
1 I will not be bringing the children!!
1 I won’t know until the day arrives, but a fixture is not exactly something you can turn your back on, franchise or not. Certainly a ‘win at all costs’ game whichever way you look at it.
1 I wont go, it will be football fans behaving at their worst.
1 I would absolutely hate it. It will be the equivalent of a reincarnated soul coming face to face with its rotting corpe after being in the care of Dr Frankenstein. I go to all games, home and away, but I would not go there (and bollocks to all our new supporters who say they are just supporting our team – they need to learn their history).
1 I would avoid it like the plague, as the Idiots will come out of the woodwork.
1 I would be masively excited about the proposition, I could just about out up with the sharing of attendance revenue, but I would love a game of that nature to turn into a symbolic protest against all that is wrong about franchising in football
1 I would go and support AFC, as the neutral interest would be huge and I wouldn’t want some neutral standing in my spot/sitting in my seat (if at Franchise)
1 I would hate it. Its a no win situation for us. I could not watch the match and my lifetime as a pacifist might end
1 I would have to think long and hard about visiting MK for an away game, as the thought of giving them any money still leaves me cold. I would probably attend a similar game at home, as we would benefit far more financially. I also would not wish to play them in any comp, until we had a decent chance of embarassing them on the field
1 i would love to play them but as long as its at our ground. i think there might be trouble if we played them away.
1 I would NEVER go to their ground and I would boycott any cup game where they shared the gate money
1 I would play them at Kingsmeadow, but insist they took no tickets. I would not go to MK. I would – reluctantly – play them in League matches.
1 I wouldn’t quit a competition or put the club in a position that would cost us points or our league status to avoid playing them. I wouldn’t reject promotion to avoid playing them if promotion put us in the same league.I have no desire ever to set foot in their stadium but I think I would attend a home game.
1 I wouldn’t travel to their ground. I wouldn’t part with my money.
1 I’d go to all games except an away one in the League
1 I’ll stay away
1 I’ve always said that I will cross that bridge when it comes to it, but I don’t envisage me ever entering the ASDA Stadium.
1 id go
1 Id like to play them jst for the fact i wana beat them :D hopefully it would be at home as i would begrudge giving them money but would go to support the lads.
1 If a Cup Match, I’ll go. If League game, I’ll go to the home leg but not the away leg. Let’s see nearer to the time how I feel.
1 If and when we get to play them, we don’t boycott, we don’t bicker about whether to attend or not – whether it is home or away, cup or league, every man and his dog goes with full bells and whistles etc etc.. If we don’t go, or turn up half-hearted, then everything they ever said about us having no support will be seen to have been to. If we don’t go, together, we will have failed ourselves.
1 if at home ban their fans from our stadium, if away go but support from outside the stadium
1 If away, I would pay my entrance fee only, and protest.
1 If it was a home game i would attend, away game i wouldn’t go. I hope we never play them as i think it will be a disaster waiting to happen.
1 if its at there ground not to go,if its at home then give them the smallest amount of tickets we can,or better still none.
1 If the match had taken place 5 years ago it have meant a whole lot more than it does now. I would be delighted if the game took place as there would undoubtedly be great interest and coverage of the match which has to be good for us and might generatre additional revenue. However they have moved on and so have we. I don’t feel any animosity for their supporters who were gifted a league team & to harbour a grudge or show ill feelings displays our own weakness.
1 if the players wish to play them thats ok but i personaly wound not attend
1 If we are drawn against them we should play them and beat them My stance on the use of the word ‘futurely’ however is unprintable.
1 if we had to play them at KM I would go
1 If we have to play them we are commited by FA are we not? I would watch the game at home but wouldn’t travel to the concrete city to see it.
1 If we have to play them we do so by approaching it professionally and intending to win. We never forgive or forget but if we want success that comes from being a league club we will have to face them at some point. They will not go away however much we’d like them to. Playing them on a level playing field would be a good kick in the teeth for them and a good two fingered salute from us….you knocked us down but we ARE back again.
1 If we have to play them, then so be it. Personally, I wouldn’t go- I take my kids to matches, and I would worry that idiots supporting both clubs would spoil the day, and AFCW’s reputation (couldn’t care less about Franchise’s reputation)
1 If we have to play, then we have to play them. Hopefully we will by pass them.
1 If we have to then we do. I wouldn’t attend and I’d abhor the negative publicity that would arise.
1 If we have to we have to. I don’t want to play them but I’m not as fussed as I used to be about it. More interested in AFC Wimbledon than I am about them now.
1 If we play that at Kingsmeadow, I think it should be treated as a normal game as much as possible. If playing away, a full fan boycott and only players and management entering the ground with the fan base outside a la Gilllingham.
1 If we play them away. Supporters should go. The more fans at MK the better.
1 If we play them so be it at our ground ban away support, and I would hope they would do the same as I wouldn’t want to step in to the hole that finalised our demise
1 if you mean would I attend, then the answer is YES. It’s the perfect opportunity to shout abuse at the scum.
1 In some ways I hope we don’t as i think there or one or two “of us” that could do something silly, But then to coin a phrase “i would love it just love it” to beat them and have the vast majority of football fans around the country enjoy the real Dons winning.
1 in some ways i would love it, but in other ways i would hate it. If we beat their club stealing arses, then it would be great, but defeat would be intollerable. Having seen franchise a couple of times, i find their ‘fans’ very irritating, but the stockport v franchise was great for winding them up! Also having had the misfortune to have travelled past the scumbowl, i dont think i could enter that pile of shite. A point to note, as my coach was in m****n k****s, i was looking for the stadium, and in all honesty if it had not been signposted, i would have missed it, i actually thought it was a warehouse or something, not a football ground!
1 in the cup it needs to be at home.
1 in the cup, at home we should make it as expensive as poss to put the game on- for example pay all the usual volunteers, get in extra police then hope that no people turn up. Play the game though and beat them. Away-no fans but beat them at their place!
1 Individual choice for supporters
1 Initmidate at home, boycott away – as we have asked other fans to do.
1 It has to be played. Zero WFC attendance INSIDE the stadium if away.
1 It is will be just another game – get on and play it.
1 It veers from out and out hostility to total apathy
1 It will be difficult to treat it as ‘just another game’ but in all honesty it should be.
1 it will be worth getting nicked!
1 It will happen eventually, lets not make a fuss and therefore our cause will be reported more favourably.
1 It will happen in the not so distant future so im prepared for it – i just hope everyone is sensible about it and the necessary precautions ar etaken – ie ticket sales, stewarding/policing, the media wil have it whipped up enough anyway
1 It would be a hard decision to go to their ground. If we did play them there would be so much media attention it would be a good time to educate people about how wrong the move was and the return of the honours etc… Oh and losing to the scummers would be unthinkable
1 It would be a watershed moment. Once it’s over with – win, lose or draw – we move on.
1 It would pain me terribly if it meant giving even a penny to them, but i would have to go to hurl abuse, and i cannot imagine a sweeter feeling than beating the bastards!
1 it’s a game of football,we should move on and get over the the bitterness.Play them with pride win or lose,with fans that bought football, not football that bought fans.
1 It’s just another game! All our fans should attend the match. Ok, I don’t like them either, but they are nothing to do with me any more!
1 Just another game. Honest.
1 Just beat them
1 Just get on with it, outplay them and win the media battle.
1 just treat home game as any other, boycott by fans for away game.
1 Keeeeeel them!! Seriously … what are the alternatives? Not show up? Sulk? Blow raspberries at them from the halfway line? It would be a game to be played and hopefully won. And then party like its …. errrr 1999 ….
1 kill the fuckers!
1 Lats beat the bastards. But dont want to play them unless we can be competative against them, couldn’t take losing to them
1 Let’s be professional and just do it. We don’t have the right to decide which games we do and don’t play in league and cups.
1 Let’s just go out and beat the living poo out of them
1 Let’s play them and whip them good! Let bygones be bygones and let’s move on, we have achieved a lot in 5 years and are better off than groundsharing with Crystal Palace.
1 lets beat the crap out off them on and off the pitch
1 lets beat them
1 make it behind closed doors for the safety of their management/players. we have to play them for legal reasons we should not jeopardise our league status by forfitting games against them.
1 My current inclination would be to give it a miss
3 Never
1 Never ever ever ever want to play them just in case we lost. I could not take that! If we ever have to play them then for the away game a full boycott, for the home game we must make it more hostile then a Galatasaray v Panathinaikos game in hell.
1 Never ever play them, regardless of age/sex/competition
1 never ever want it to happen
1 Never forgive, never forget, then give em a good hiding…
1 Never to go to “their ” ground
1 Never travel to wankydome
1 Never want to play them. But if we have to, make sure that we bitch slap them.
1 no choice
2 No comment
1 no grudges just bring it on!!
1 No option but to play them – aim to ensure as little money goes to them as possible but overall to beat them.
1 No problem. I couldn’t care less about them, and apart from when we play them I think our fans should get over it all! This may sound controversial, but if anything the whole MK thing has ultimately been completely beneficial. We now have a club which we are in control of and it is secure. So many fans all know each other, and people enjoy the social side along with the football. We’ll also get our league place back. When we do play them though, it should rightly be a massive rivalry!
1 No question…we play them end of. We have the moral highground and any crossing of paths gives us the opportunity to remind football about the treachery and injustice that was done to us as fans. Think of the amount of press coverage we would attain and what we could do with that.
1 no thank u
1 No views
1 Not a good idea but would have to be done to avoid penalties. Suggest done behind closed doors
1 not bothered as long as we win!
1 Not bothered. Let them be MK Dons and then beat them 1-0 in the FA cup.
1 Not looking forward to it; I think the Club should fulfil the fixture as I can’t see the point of taking the points deduction/fine that would follow if we didn’t. If it was in Mk I doubt I’d attend.
1 Not something we have a choice over I had hoped they would have gone bust by then.
1 nuke ‘em, but I am biased – worry about the fall out later. ;o)
1 Of course we should play them, or we would face huge punishments from the FA/Leagues for refusing to do so.
1 ok
1 On a purely football level I’d love to beat them. Looking at the bigger picture I’m not sure the football would take precidence in any meeting and it probably would be a game remembered for other reasons.
1 personally – never. However, the FA would sanction us if that happened, so : if away – behind closed doors, if at home, make room for us all and limit away tickets to 50.
1 Personally wouldnt go – wouldnt trust myself to control my feelings – but wouldnt support an organised boycott – everyone should follow their gut instinct on this with no recrimination either way
1 play
1 Play them and beat them.
1 Play ‘em, and fuck ‘em up.
1 Play ‘em, play well against ‘em, be proud of ourselves and what we have achieved, get on with the next match, forget ‘em, shove ‘em, we know who we are, WTID.
1 play and beat
1 Play and stuff the bastards. Try and get the Police to force the FA to ban travelling fans would be good; it would be carnage off the pitch if they don’t.
1 Play and WIN! “futurely”?
1 Play but don’t go. Hope it never happens
1 Play em and destroy em
1 play em, beat em
1 play if we have to, but make no more concessions to their business and customers than we have to. If at home, do not mention them at all in the matchday programme.
1 Play in front of an empty stadium in any gate shared match ie cup or play-off and boycott any away match. For a home League match, make the experience as intimidating as possible for their officials, players and supporters, whilst staying within the law and the regulations of the tournament.
1 Play it but nobody to enter the ground if it’s away from home. If at home, everybody ‘volunteers’ to steward but charges enough to mean that lot don’t make any money.
1 Play the fixture. Make as much publicity out of it as possible to remind people how much of a crime was committed. Don’t be polite or cordial to the bunch of thieves – ie: no Franchise in our ‘board room’ / hospitality areas and I would expect Erik et al to politely decline any invitation from them.
1 play the game as any other
1 Play the scum, beat the scum, support our team and maintain our dignity. No boycotts; no violence. Show the world what being a real fan means and the injustice of what happened. A few bob going from our pockets into Winkleman’s will be irksome, but it’s not going to make or break the scum and it’s not going to be worth missing our historic victory for.
2 Play them
1 Play them & beat them, no different from any other team we may play.
3 Play them and beat them
1 Play them and beat them!
2 Play them and beat them.
1 play them and fucking stuff the bastards
1 play them and totally destroy them
1 play them, beat them
1 Play them, beat them thoroughly, and use the publicity to show the world who the real Wimbledon is.
1 Play them, beat them. Offer zero hospitality other than what we legally have to supply. Anything else means we are a protest and not a football club. Us not playing them won’t make them any weaker, us beating them however… (ps piss in their tea urn, leave a fucking big turd in their dressing room bog and make sure their team bus parks a mile away).
1 Play them, but behind closed doors at a neutral venue.
1 Play them, but boycott any home cup fixtrue, or any away match. If a home league match to support the team.
1 Play them, but I will not pay admission for a game with gate-share.
1 Play them, stuff them.
1 play them. Beat them (on the pitch)
1 Play them. Beat them. Make the experience as unpleasant and uncomfortable for them as possible. No hot water in the dressing rooms, piss in their tea. Refuse to allow their officials into the president’s lounge (and if FA rules say we have to let them in then none of our players or officials or staff should set foot in there – close it using staff shortage as a reason). No away supporters permitted for safety reasons. Make sure they run out to “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves”. Boo, jeer and whistle at ear-splitting volume whenever they have the ball. And sing, sing sing for AFC Wimbledon throughout.
1 Play them. Great publicity. Beat them!
1 play them. I would be bitterly against any attempt to boycott these fixtures.
1 Play thrm and beat them
1 Protest outside and cheer from outside – no money to the scum! (what does futurely mean?)
1 Purely hypothetical and something that a lot of people waste a lot of time thinking about. Play the game – I am totally against any sort of stance which could lead to sanctions against the club – that would let them win a second time.
1 Really looking forward to it.
1 Refuse to play them and create as much publicity as possible around it. That’s probably a tiny minority position though and will never happen though, so I’d hope our supporters would boycott the game and donate the money they’d pay in an entrance fee to a football charity, or to be shared out amongst CCL clubs or something.
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1 Rules state we will have to play them. Personally I would not go into their ground but would be prepared to stand outside and make a stand against their existence.
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1 Should play them (too risky not to) but do everything in our power to make the experience unpleasant for them. If playing at MK, supporters should boycott and refuse to attend.
1 Should play, but at a neutral ground. Them coming to us would corrupt “The Fans Stadium”, us going to them is disgusting.
1 Should refuse to play or send a youth side if forced. and refuse a ticket allocation if drawn away.
1 Since it would be a league requirement to play the game(s), then they go ahead. I wouldn’t attend though.
1 sooner the better
1 Stance ? Odd. We have no choice under FA Rules to boycott. However I am not sure I could go. I probably would have to resign from work if I did go, just in case things got ourt of hand…….
1 still support the team
1 stop it, you are giving me nightmares! I wouldn’t attend the match, but maybe we should play them…and win.
1 sure, play them and win
1 team has no choice in the matter, but i will only go to home game. Cant bring myself to finance those scum
1 That’s such a tough question. I think we will have to play them as any boycott just won’t be understood by everyone else in the football would. Let’s face it, not many people really cared about us when it (franchise) first happened, even less now!
1 The club should definitely play the fixture. I’d support a fan boycott if it was in MK, but expect us to fill KM with a very hostile crowd to cheer us on to a big win!
1 The club would obviously have to fulfill the fixture. I would attend wherever the game was played to support AFCW.
1 The dilemma of do I go? The answer has to be yes. We cannot not support our team in such a fixture plus if we were to beat them how could you ever say “I wasn’t there”
1 The game would have to be played – and you must support your team!!
1 The match has to be played. Attendance by fans is to their own choice and conscience.
1 The supporters are what matters. It would be wrong to put old prejudices in the way and we should be big enough to get on with playing the game. I know some supporters say they will never forget. I am more for moving on.
1 There Bridge Cross That Let’s When Get We.
1 They are forgotten now. Lets just get on with things ourselves. Would be great to beat them, sure, but lets remember we still have our dignity and a bloody good club to boot!!
1 they are just another team.
1 They are the real dons, you set up another club and stole another clubs ground SCUM
1 They mean nothing to me, they stole our league postion but, in all honesty, I wouldn’t swap the AFC Wimbedon experience for anything. Afterall, if they hadn’t have taken away what was ours, we’d never have experienced the likes of Merstham Chairman and cheese rolls, the semi final at Sutton, cup finals at Woking, Promotions, winning 8-1 at Wembley, it’s all priceless as far as I’m concerned! Tad concerned that the fixture would be used by idiots as an excuse for violence (…wish someone would have the balls to ban for life anyone who displays violent conduct at any match as we are a family club and am sick of sad idiots trying to ruin it for the majority) personally I’d much rather just rise above it and get on with supporting our team!
1 They will always be HELLS creation,but I will go to the Pig Pen and protest outside but I will not give them a brass farthing of my money.The Devil Incarnate can make his fortune from another donkey.Oh I’m a lifer as this is my 45th season coming up.
1 They would have to move an away match to Kingsmeadow after the unexpected firebomb attack… But seriously, I would have to think very seriously about paying one cent towards the club stealers that could go to starving children in Africa if the match were not at Home. Don’t get me wrong, I would just love it (in a Kevin Keegan kind of way) to be there if we beat them, but can’t bear the thought of assiting them IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.
1 think we should fufill the fixture as a club. as fans consider boycotting the game. always feel postive protests doing “something” rather than “nothing”
1 This is a very difficult question, for the following reasons : 1) Away: Lining the pockets of the scum. 2) Home: I think it was said that if we had a home cup game, we would put the ticket prices at around £2 per head, meaning the monies gained by the scum to be very low. 3) Losing. If I was in attendance, losing to them would be worse than the Fisher / Bromley payoff SF put together.
1 This is the day i live for, to play the scum would be a massive achievement for the club, and we would without doubt have the support of everyone apart from Franchise FC of course.
1 To be honest, I am looking forward to that day. I want to show those c*nts that we’re still alive and kicking.
1 To me they are just another team now. If we meet ‘em let’s beat ‘em!
1 Undecided
1 under competition rules we would have to play them. if it was at their place i probably would not attend. we don’t want to play them in the cup yet anyway, as they would probably beat us and we can’t be having that. the media would love it though, so some money could be made.
1 Unfortunately, they are a ‘legal’ club. FA rules will require us to play them if we were drawn against or in the same league. Consequences could be harsh if we failed to play a fixture without ‘valid’ reason. Play them but do/take the bare minimum required for/from them.
1 Unsure, I think that in general I’d want to be there and make as much noise as possible to show those wankers what they did and that it is not forgotten. But rage is a dangerous thing, there is a lot of pent up aggression here, a little worried how I would react to a Frannie giving it large in my face.
1 Utter contempt :-) I’d travel away but not pay to get in. I can see a good chance of there being trouble as some will use it as an excuse just to cause trouble.
1 wankers!! ave em, sign on the fans as players to play, and if away game boycott outside the ground.
1 Wanna play them but would be worried about off the field issues – particually in-fighting between those AFC fans who want to play them and those that dont.
1 We are AFC Wimbledon fans and if we were to play them we should support the team no matter where it was held. We would outsing them and their ‘fans’ would know who the real Dons were.
1 We are now AFC Wimbledon,they are now MK Dons(wish they would get rid of the Dons bit though)and as such we should play them.I would attend these fixtures.
1 We are obliged to play them in the league and cup so should play the games. I would hope for a home cup tie that the club lowers ticket prices to a level that just about covers costs. Also the lub should pay volunteers a large wage on the day that they can then donate back to the club at a later stage. This way profits will be negligible and the Frannies will go home with barely nothing.
1 We can’t choose, can we? If we have to play them, then we play them.
1 We cannot refuse to play them but we must ‘celebrate’ the occasion sensibly with no violence _ mark it sensibly but be sure to let the world know how wrong franchising is
1 We could not refuse to play them without draconian penalties but would never go away to see the fixture and would probably avoid a home fixture in a cup. Home league would be a different matter as a ST holder I would be deemed to be there whether I was or not
1 We go whatever happens, Im happy to take part in any demonstration be it to wear old shirts etc. In fac i belive there should be some kind of demonstration or protest at the game.
1 we gone beat them
1 We have to abide by leagure rules and play the fixture, as much as we do not want to. The game would raise our profile more than there profile anyway, we would gain more by playing the fixture.
1 we have to fulfill our fixtures
1 We have to fulfill our fixtures. I will never go to MK, not sure about attending a home game, especially where Franchse would get a share of the receipts.
1 We have to play them – the consequences of a gesture ( not playing) would be too great for the club and the directors
1 We have to play them, beat them well and if at home, charge their fans double! If away, our fans should do some kind of peaceful, but clear protest against franchising
1 We have to play them, lets not give the FA anymore reason to punish us. However, I would not attend an away game but would be willing to take part in a peaceful protest outside their ground. At our place we should fill the place to capacity and remind them in a vocal but peaceful manner that they have no right to exist.
1 We have to play them, we have no choice. If it’s an away game I won’t be attending (despite living less than 20 miles from the Winkiedome). It’s the fans who have to decide if they will attend or not.
1 We have to think purely of ourselves. We can make our point on the day against franchising football, but ultimately we must concentrate on our own club!
1 we must play every fixture
1 We must play them in either competition or be expelled. So now lets just push whats happened to the back of our minds, play them and win. that’s the only way to get ‘revenge’. Don’t desert AFC players on these occasions, they still need our support wherever the game is played. Notice I don’t say ‘forget’ what’s happened.
1 We play them and get on with it. Although not (and never will be) for us, for other football fans it’s all in the past and we’d just be seen as petty if we refused to acknowledge them and play them. It would be a massive media circus so I actually think it would be good as it’ll remind the football fraternity what happened and give Ivor, Kris, Erik etc., the opportunity to promote all the positives that AFCW stand for to a national audience again. Hopefully, the greater good would overcome and we’d hammer them 5-0.
1 We play them and we beat them. Except in friendlies when have you been allowed to pick which teams you play? Rules is rules… That last comment was a joke in case the sarcasm was missed.
1 We play them, we slay them… the result doesn’t matter (well it does but) so much as the chance we have to make a massive point to one and all…. mind you if any of their “fans” turn up it could get very unpleasant.
1 we shld kill them
1 We should ban away fans at the very least, and possibly consider a symbolic boycott or playing in black to mark the death of football
1 We should beat them.
1 We should fulfil the fixture. I wouldn’t boycott a home fixture against them. Undecided about an away fixture – but wouldn’t begrudge anyone who decided to go (or stay away).
1 We should never play them. Relegation, or a fine is better than legitimizing them.
1 We should not recognise them as an opponent and refuse to play the fixture.
1 We should play Franchise FC in accordance with FA constitution and not jeopardize our status. Attendance at the games should be left to the individual without there being any reproach from others.
1 We should play them and all go and support the team. MK Dons was wrong but it’s happened, go to the match and show them the great club we have created.
1 We should play them and be as hostile as possible, both on and off the pitch. This is an example of hostility for a very real reason, not just local rivalry (eg Liverpool and Everton); Also we should demand they drop the “Dons” tag. That really bugs me…
1 We should play them and fans should come out in force and get behind the team.
1 We should play them and need to move on from the whole MK obsession as painful and unjust as the whole thing is and was>
1 We should play them but I won’t go, I’d get arrested.
1 We should play them, I would go to a game at home but not away
1 We will have to play them despite our objections to the way they inherited our football league place
1 We would do ourselves more harm than good by not playing them. Whilst we shouldn’t forget, there will be a lot of people out there who would view us less well for throwing our toys out/taking our ball home or whatever. Whilst we shouldn’t forget, we are not going to make them go away.
1 We would have an obligation to play them under league/cup rules but should ensure the team and fans! get the reception they deserve.
1 We would have to play them as it would be in the wider interest of football.. But the fans could make a protest by wearing black / turning our back on them etc etc but we must do it it together
1 We would have to play them or risk harmful points deductions, or suffer a big fine/expulsion from cup competition and they are not worth the aggravation. Definitely protest outside the ground against their very existence, at the very least. Support AFCW even by singing loudly outside. I would seriously have a problem with paying money to get into their ground.
1 We would have to play them, if we enter a competition we know they also enter (FA cup for example) and we draw them we should play them. In fact by entering the competition we’ve stated we will abide by the rules and rthe rules say you need to play who the draw gives you.
1 we would have to play them, what other option is there ????
1 We would have to play them. Any withdrawl would be self defeating nonsense
1 We’ll have to do it at some point I expect. Won’t go to the away game and would suggest the club refuses any allocation of tickets. For any home game where a percentage of gate recepits has to go to the visiting club (Cup games ?) I’d suggest that we charge a nominal entrance fee (1 penny) and ask people to donate the “real” entrance money once inside the ground.
1 We’ll have to play them, as we’ll be bound by the competition rules. Just don’t expect it to go off quietly!
1 We’ll have to play them, but don’t expect me to attend.
1 Well we have to fulfill the fixture and do our best to win the game. We should probably not attend the game up there but maybe just protest outside the ground. Personally I never want to set foot inside their ground but others may feel differently. Hopefully it’s a situation that wont arise as they’ll go bust first :)
1 Well, in a ‘competitive’ situation we will HAVE to play them.
1 What can we do? It will raise the club’s profile in a major way – so as long as we handle ourselves with good grace on and off the pitch we’ll be winners whatever happens
1 Whats done is done,there is no going back so play them and get on with it.
1 WHen we play against MK DOngs we`ll beat them :)
1 Where we have to (i.e. to avoid FA imposed sanctions), but never where we don’t.
1 Whilst it would be great to beat them, personally I am a little worried that there could be trouble at the match, and that is something I don’t want to see.
1 Who
2 who?
1 why not
1 win, lose or draw I will enjoy hurling abuse at them all afternoon!
1 With the return of the silverware I think we should play them. A boycott may work in their favour. We may be in for a nasty shock, insofar that from their laughing stock days the club does seem to have taken off locally, so I think when the fans meet it could be a violent encounter. Our hearts will say beat them on the field, beat them on the terraces, but the reality is we could lose both battles. We will always occupy the moral high ground on this one, but may emerge as the smaller club. My sense is, to keep hating them, but enocurage them now to drop the final delusions of having anything to do with Wimbledon and drop the Dons tag.
1 withdraw – not recognise their legityimacy
1 Won’t go. Hope club take control of PR so does not descend into bitter arguements.
1 wont go
1 wont go to their shit hole
1 Worry about it if it ever happens ,dont care about them though.
1 Would attend.
1 Would hate us to have to play them. I would not go.
1 Would like to beat them, but not sure if I would attend the match. I definately would not attend any match where the scum would get a share of my money. I would not call for the club to call out of any fixture.
1 Would like to stage a protest and stage a boycott at any game that Franchise stood to make money from. Would be nigh on impossible to achieve however.
1 Would like us to explore the possibility of playing supporters. Fit ones though that can catch up with the Frannie scum before launching in a 2 foot lunge to break their legs and their careers. No remorse, and I’m serious. Other than that, pull out of the game.
1 Would love to watch us stuff ‘em 3-0.
1 Would never go there if we had to play away. If we were drawn at home, we would have no choice but to play them. Would make for a lively game.
1 Would not attend an away match, but would consider going to a home game
1 would not attend and suspect would damage us as a club as there will be trouble and we would come off worse from a PR point of view
1 would not wish to play them – will not be able to watch. still too angry
1 would rather avoid them. there would be serious crowd violence before and after the game, especially as many troublemakers from other clubs would join up wth AFCW fans. plus we’d probably lose the match by 2 or 3. But if it came to it, I think the club should propose that we refuse to play the match if in the cup, and put it to a vote.
1 Would want to beat them convincingly
1 wouldn’t be too happy about it. if we were to lay them at home, it’d feel better though
1 Yes but we need to beat them!
1 Yes.
1 You can’t really prevent the two clubs playing. I guess the match would create a lot of media interest and it is likely to be a tight and competitive match.
7. Your opinion on a league consisting of supporters trust owned clubs, featuring the likes of ourselves, FCUM, AFC Liverpool and AFC Telford Utd

Great idea. Let’s go for it   7.5% (31)
I’ll listen to what you have to say   37.1% (154)
Don’t be so daft   55.4% (230)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
8. Are you happy with the way AFCW is being run currently and do you have any observations as to the future direction you would like to see the club take?

# Response
1 90% But must sort out if DT members and Volunteers are equal to ST Holders.Because if they are not treated Fairly,Equally,Cherished & Nurtured alongside the ST holders,as it must not be assumed all DT members & Volunteers are ST holders.I’m DT Founder member but not ST holder,due health problems.Because if any of these sections falls apart the Club will not be able to function.The warning signs are there to be seen!!!
1 Totally happy both with the way the club is being run and the direction we are going.My only concern would be if certain key personnel were to leave.I would like to see a page on the prog dedicated to fans letters.
1 100% happy.
1 A bit more formal in some aspects, especially comercially. I feel our integrity should not be obligated for a quick buck or the chance of some media coverage as I feel it is slightly being at the moment.
1 A good bunch of people with the best interests of the club at heart. I’d like the club to gain some more promotions in the future alongside sustainable management off the field.
1 A supporters’ trust run club has the problem of raising money, and as you go up the leagues you need bigger and bigger money. I think there should be a BUSINESS attached to the club. This could be in an area nothing to do with football, but where the income is lucrative. The company would be the official sponsor of the club. There are some very talented people at AFCW, who could create such a business and I’m sure the legal side is negotiable.
1 Absolutely happy.
1 Absolutely. Erik is a talented Chief exec/chairman – we should hang on to him.
1 AFCW is being run in a professional and acceptable manner. If more people volunteered, more could be done. The club will not thrive if we have to pay everyone to do everything. Fundraising to raise £10,000 is not easy, but spending the same amount is very much easier.
1 again on the finance side it concerns me that a few individuals may be bankrolling the club. we don’t want dangerous precedints being set. the club needs to make strong cases for more of our money. again sharing the financial costs. after all if we were watching the Dons in the league it would cost more than £10 to get in to matches.
1 All seems good at the moment – may not be perfect but we must be realistic with a fans run club at this level
1 always room for inprovment,but you cant says that the club is not very well run,i do think a credit card facility for club goods ie the shop on match days would be welcome.
1 Am happy, subject to issues regarding utilisation of KM for fund raising events, as I have no real urge to see us back in the league(in a minority here I guess). However if that aim is to be acheived I’m afraid that some of the sacred cows on which the club is based may need to be sacrificed. This may need to include obtaining of outside investment of some kind.
1 as a long distance supporter I am happy
1 As above, I think we need to set an agenda to build a sustainbable 10 year plan. We need to be realistic financially and make sure it reflects the wider fan base’s aspirations. Although I am enhjoying the football at grass roots level (I have witnessed the rise from Southern League days previously), I suspect that the main driver for a lot of fans is our ambition for the future. If we haven’t got a vision of what this is, then we no longer feel part of something special.
1 As each season passes, I feel less part of the club and do subscribe to the view that the club has an ‘inner circle’ that benefit from a jobs for the boys/girls mentality. ( I do not mean that any of these benefit in a fraudulent or dishonest way). Also, as the players and set up are more professional, there seems to less interaction with the ordinary fans
1 As good as can be expected in the circumstances. Delegation by the overwoked senior people is urgently required.
1 As i stated earlier the club needs financial backing. No club can progress to the level we hope to by donations. I want the club to succeed and reach its true potential but we need to take the blinkers off. The fairytale will have to become a business sooner or later whether we want it to or not
1 as long as we stay in the black thats ok
1 As we grow I guess we will see more money spent on staff, including Communications and Stewards. My feeling is that we are trying to be all-things-to-all-people and I think we need to focus on being a professional football club first and foremost. I guess I sort of feel that our greatest strength “being a Fans Club” is also our greatest weakness. There is a risk that people will pull the club in all sorts of directions to meet some personal interest. Its not a disaster, just something we need to be aware of.
1 As we progress my belief is that there must be less reliance on well meaning amateurs and a greater business focus. That does not mean that I have anything other than huge respect and thanks for all the people and work that has been done.
1 At some point, someone with money will have to put in or we will find a level where we stagnate, at that point, bringing in new players of quality will become increasingly difficult and we may end up as ‘just another non-league club’ who bounces around the leagues.
1 Better comms, OS etc.
1 Better communication via OS.
1 Better interaction with fans regards getting the supporters to think about their club’s status and set up and how they interact (ie more vital board elections etc).
1 bit of a clique with exec. dominating dons trust
1 Brilliant. Of course things could be better, but it’s much better than I expected, and better than my impression of other clubs at this level.
1 Bring it on!
1 Broadly happy
1 broadly happy, more paid and accountable staff would be a good thing.
1 Broadly, I’m very happy with the club. I’d like to see greater active involvement by Trust members in decision making at AGMs etc. That’s been a problem from the word go though and I suspect won’t change unless there are major decisions that need to be made about our future. On a day-to-day basis we have certainly lost the innovation and risk-taking that characterised the club on foundation – it seems any proposal or suggestion that goes to the club is over-scrutinised from all angles or lost in Someoneelseislookingintothatland and good ideas are strangled at birth lest they impede the club’s own plans which probably won’t happen anyway.
1 By and large it appears to be run well and within expected parameters. Teething problems and the occassional cock up are expected (we are still a baby after all) but appropriate lessons learned need to follow – which appears to happen.
1 Cautiously happy. I do wonder if the club is as open and transparent as it could be. I think the website in particular is underused as a resource for making available complete and up-to-date information about all the clubs’/trusts’ non-footballing activities. I would like to see the club more community-focused with a community orientated ethos running through the core of the club and not just a few football schemes for the kids. I’d like to see a rebalancing of our priorities to give a little more emphasis on the ideals that, while not inherent in the clubs formation, were pervasive in the early days.
1 CLOSE THE BASTARDS DOWN
1 Considering the number of vounteers involved I think it;s well run and fun toi be part of.
1 Currently Happy
1 Currently very happy with Eric and the board.
1 Do we need a commercial director as well as a full time commercial manager?
1 do we really need a commerical director and manager, not much seems to be happening commercially which are really successful
1 Don’t go mad with the playing budget. Ever.
1 Dont really know what to say as im not on the inside. But its a credit to the game. Its good to feel involved. I like the idea of mowing the lawns, handing out fixture lists etc. You wouldnt get that with Chelsea!
1 DT Members should have a greater say in the running of the club – elected board members should be representing the supporters’ views, not their own opinions, a common error in pseudo-democracies. Supporters views on anything and everything should be taken on a regular basis, either through surveys like this, quick voting booths on match days (paper or electronic voting), online voting for registered members, phone-in votes (again for registered members) or whatever. Rather than relying on a select group of individuals deciding themselves what they think is right, greater involvement of the supporters is vital for the club to suceed.
1 Enitrely happy. I feel the club is in safe hands from volunteers, coaching staff etc through to CEO
1 Erik has my full confidence, the board are generally trusted by me. I do have some feelings about some individuals but that’s natural. I don’t want to see an elite supporters’ event pattern, it’s a club for everyone regardless of their financial power. That said, the Cafe Royal was affordable to a good proportion if you planned and wanted to go.
1 Erik is a key part of the running of the club and we will be fine under his stewardship.
1 Erik is excellent Ivor is a pain
1 Erik is great! we should think ahead to the time when he really does want to retire. Board do a good job
1 Everything seems in order. We are growing both on and off the pitch and I get the impression some real foundations for the future are being put down.
2 Fine
1 fine for now.
1 Fine I suppose, dont really mind about the behind the scenes business, just want to know about whats happening on the pitch.
1 Full time players in Conference.
1 Generally happy – appreciate it is a difficult thing to keep 3,000 people happy all the time. A few disenting voices along the way are always appreciated to make people think about what is going on.
1 Generally happy – need to ensure that we continue to make use of our supporters’ abilities and should not either over-extend ourselves or sell out to a single owner. Would accept slower progression in exchange for retaining control.
1 Generally happy though I am a bit worried about some of the personality issues that seem to be arising. I think also transparancy needs to be improved, though not at the loss of financial or operating advantage. Perhaps we do need a few extra members of full time staff. So long as we remain a fans club and keep that flag flying and operating in such a way I will remain happy. It is our USP!!
1 Generally happy with a few minor tweaks required. Better info on the OS etc.
1 Generally happy, but we continue to miss opportunities due to personalities, who run certain aspects of the club. Mr Heller comes to mind
1 Generally happy. Would like to see a professional appointment to the position of Youth and Community Director currently covered by Nigel Higgs as the future of the Club will be dependent on how well we can produce our own talent and I don’t have confidence that this is heading fast enough in the direction I feel it needs to. We need someone who knows how to make this happen and not a volunteer. We have a professional manager, now is the time for a professional appointment of a Youth and Community Director.
1 Generally it seems to be run very well. I do worry though that somewhere along the line prices will be increased to balance the budget given our debt situation and the expectations for progression.
1 generally ok. would not want us to sacrifice fan ownership but as we progress through leagues not sure how we are going to manage to sustain this due to financial pressures. need to be considering longterm financial sustainability now
1 Generally very happy, but will always be concerned about creeping towards trying to spend our way up the leagues on borrowed money. The club is way more important than league position.
1 Generally yes a bit worried about the debt though.
1 Given that the number of paid staff is minimized in order to maximize the playing budget, and that much essential work is done by volunteers whose number and enthusiasm for the job is not inexhaustible, then yes, but those things do have to be addressed.
1 Guestbookers should stop preaching and get involved. If their views have any substance, they should put them forward to the club or The Dons Trust.
7 Happy
1 Happy – great confidence in Eric to keep things on straight and narrow
1 Happy at moment. Thanks to all the volunteers.
1 happy at present, Respect to all the volunteers.
1 Happy at the moment
1 Happy at the moment I’d like to see the supporters have a real say in the direction we should take should be reach the conference. ie should we involve outside investment in the club as a means to push on into the league? Should we involve the same sort of funding in order to move into a new stadium hopefully in Wimbledon. Also I’d like to see the club have more ties with the town of Wimbledon itself.
1 Happy at the moment.
1 Happy but concerned we are overly reliant on Erik’s skills and expertise.
1 Happy overall although I think there’s a growing belief in the Trust board towards ‘elective’ democracy rather than ‘participatory’ democracy.
1 Happy overall we just need to keep focussed and grow sensibly and within our means. I would not want our progress to depend on an individual benefactor even if it meant league 2 would be as high as we could get….it would just betray everything we stand for.
1 Happy the way it is being run but would love to see a truly community based club, loads of teams, bringing up youth players etc.
1 happy to go with the flow
1 Happy with Erik’s stewardship. We are lucky to have him. Always impressed by what the volunteers do.
1 Happy with the current situation
1 Happy with the way the club is run, personally nervous of the financial commitments we are taking on but the issue was openly debated and voted on so no complaints.
1 Happy, well run considering most people are volunteers
3 Happy.
1 Happy. It’s not perfect but it’s so much better than at WFC. I’d like to see us do more in the community (Kingston and Wimbledon) but I know that resources (people and money) are stretched.
1 Happy. Promotion was just about deserved this year and maybe the move to a full time manager was the difference in the end. Future? Hopefully more and more youth players will make the step up. I think we’d all love to see a move back to Merton but that’s probably just a dream… ;-)
1 how do we cope with money men?
1 I am amazed at the committment of the people who run wimbledon. God help us when Erik stands down, and Ivor also. That siad, there are some people who are too keen to force their own opinions on others in order to take teh club where they think it should be going.
1 I am completly satisfied
1 I am generally happy with the way the club is run. A little less evidence of elitism especially on match days would be more in keeping with a “Fans’ club”.with the Players and Management not being kept in the Presidents Lounge and just gracing their presence for the “man of the match” presentation in the Main Bar after many supporters have left.
1 I am generally very happy; I just hope we haven’t stretched ourselves too much financially with the playing budget, Ground Improvements and Barclays Loan.
1 I am happy although I think that the club has to become more professional in its running, not a criticism of the way it is run, but I think that it is going to be hard to survive in even the S let alone the Conf without a change of running.
1 I am happy at the moment, but I’m keeping an open mind.
1 I am happy how it is being run, but some things can be improved
1 I am happy that we have some very good people involved with our club and that there are opportunities for those to get involved with various volunteer groups if they really want to.
1 I am happy with the way the club is being run. My only observation is that I am against any outside business buying into the club.
1 I am happy with the way the club is run, however I’d like to a better value for money in certain parts.
1 I am happy.
1 I am happy. There are certain decisions that I have disagreed with (naming of stadium for example), but in terms of the long-term direction of the club, I think those in charge have done a fantastic job.
1 I am reasonably happy with the way teh club is being run, however I feel that the website and communications could be much improved. It is frustrating to find out things happening to the club from various other websites before the ‘Official’ site. There should also be some provision for supporters who are not ‘netted up’ to be drip fed information in some way.
1 I am totally supportive and happy with how the club is run.
1 I am very happy with the way the club has been run, and think the club has a great future.
1 i believe we need to be the only club at the fans stadium if we want proceed up the leagues
1 I dislike that a fan owned club allows far too many priviliages for a very select few. The future lies with getting kids to come along and get involved from an early age. We’re a part time non-league football club, yet allow an environment where players can be locked away from the supporters. I am not aware of any other non-league club that allows the little poppets to hide to such a level from the supporters. Appreciate we need the income of the presidents lounge, but wish someone at the club would have the balls to tell the players that they have to go into the main bar for the motm presentation and that, after it’s taken place, they aren’t allowed back into the Presidents Lounge. Oh, and make them all join the Dons Trust and take a test on the history of Wimbledon FC/AFC Wimbledon as ignorance is not an excuse!!
1 I don’t want us to end up losing our soul, with an all-seater stadium and the fans paying £30 a ticket, just to be in league 1/Championship. I don’t want us to sell out to a sugar-daddy, even if it meant a return to Merton. I’d much prefer us to remain at Conference/League 2 level if that meant we could continue to enjoy football that is real, rather than football that is simply a consumer experience. Nb: my answer to q.9 is really “Yes, reluctantly – because I can’t see the Council supporting us to get back to Merton as a fan-run club”
1 I feel the club is being run fairly well, and we have lots of dedicated and loyal, to the club,
1 I have full trust in the way the club is run, the only danger I ever foresee is our league dream putting the club at financial risk, as long as we are always pecimistic with budgeting the board will always have my full support.
1 I like where we are after 5 years as a club. We really need to keep Erik as he is a leader and has a vision for the club. We need to get back to our roots and build more support in Wimbledon.
1 I take my hat off to everyone involved in running the club. True devotion for you! I’m not particularly bothered about getting back to Merton. They hardly moved mountains to ensure the club stayed in the borough and their support has only become apparent since the formation of AFCW. So long as we continue to exist (and progress at a natural rate) i am happy
1 I think AFCW is being run very professionally and I am extremely happy with it overall. I do think that there may be problems ahead as we have to take on more full time paid staff as we move out of part-time football.
1 I think it is really easy for people to criticise what others do, without offering to help or offer alternative solutions. I don’t have any complaints about how our club is run. There are some things that could improve (communications) but mostly I’m very happy.
1 i think its good and great we can capitalise on the clubs army of volenteers who love the club
1 I think the club coudl do more to attract attendances. Discounted tickest for first time visitors, leafleting more in Kingston and other places not just WImbeldon high street.
1 I think the club is being run well, and with a sound eye for building something long-lasting. There are many non-league clubs getting themselves into big trouble, and spending money they don’t have. Look at Lewes, for heavens sake – they sacked their manager for getting them promoted.
1 I think the club is in very safe hands.
1 I think the club is superbly run Whilst wanting progress I think we should also be glad that we still have a football club to support.
1 I think the cost of £700,000 to add just 200 seats is a bit exhorbitant
1 I think the people at the helm are doing a good job. I would like the club to try and use the youth/reserve system more than it has. Hopefully now the Conference South will allow the club to bring the younger players through a bit more.
1 i think the running of the club is fantastic, maybe a bit more money needed- i.e. fundraising
1 I think there has been more professionalism injected into the Club in the last 2 years. Merton please. Kingsmeadow feels like a holiday home, it is fine for now.
1 I think we are rapidly learning and improving off the field. Things I would like to see are an upgrade to the official website and an improved communications (possibly through a dedicated employee). The fans have had a vote in all the important issues recently (bar the O’Darragh issue which I think was handled correctly) and I would hope this will continue. I think we are right to upgrade KM – although I would love a return to Wimbledon, I don’t see it is a realistic proposition in the next decade.
1 I want to see more action re any meeton options.for me league football in Kingston will not feel as special.
1 I was disappointed when I volunteered to help out and no one ever got back to me, so I ended up doing something else instead. The club is run by volunteers of course, but I think communications and org while not bad could be improved. The debacle of the foreign registered player told me that internal processes were a bit weak and I did suggest things like conducting a risk assessment. I think it is the sense of some supporters that a few individuals have become more important than others. Equally unless we are prepared to stand up and stand for office, then we cant really complain can we? However there are plenty of corporate governance horrors stories to suggest that there needs to be real scruitiny at board level. However, on the whole the club really is a model of what can be achieved, but lets not get cocky about it. As for the future, if funds allow, I would look at extending and refurbishing the John Smiths and also adopting a policy of buying up property on the ground perimeter when these become available. OK we may not have the budget for it now, but that should be our policy. The property can be sublet or used for player accomodation until we need the land. I have long believed that there should be a quality standard for football clubs, not aimed at creating additonal work, but to keep us on track. If anyone is interested I have put together some provisional targets for such a standard.
1 I will reserve judgement on that
1 I would like to have more news and contact via the OS. But we are more than well catered for with other forums etc, probably miles ahead of anything we had during WFC days.
1 I would like to know where the missing 1000 fans are from our CCL days. Were they on a bandwagon or Dons fans who have now got bored?
1 i would like to see home matches advertised onlacal radio and news papers a lot more
1 I would like to see us back in Merton
1 I’d like to see even more community schemes
1 I’d like to see greater participation by fans, there needs to be greater emphasis in establishing a dialogue between the various boards and supporters
1 I’d rather we did more of the soft fluffy stuff, and spent less money on football.
1 I’m generally happy.
1 I’m happy
1 I’m happy – People will always moan about certain things but we’re in good hands.
1 I’m happy at the moment but never complacent.
1 I’m happy with the way the club and Trust are being run. I don’t believe that our Trust structure is holding us back, so I don’t see any need to involve a Mr Big. But I don’t rule out that circumstances could change one day.
1 I’m happy with the way the club is being run. It’s a very difficult job and I wouldn’t be able to do it. I think the volunteers do a sterling job and I thank them for it.
1 I’m happy with the way things are run
1 I’m not convinced that the DTB has the intellectual rigour and the quality of analytical skills that it says it has. I am very surprised that there wasn’t a single vote against the main stand extension given the extra level of debt it involves. I am concerned that the club is too eager to take on debt which, in the absence of a sugar daddy, is a huge risk if attendances start to drop off
1 I’m perfectly happy with the way the club is currently run. I do think however that the major challange will be when (again, touch wood!) we become established as a Blue Square Premier side, look at turning full time and at attempting to secure full League status. Whether the club can continue to operate as a fans owned trust while being a professional football club will be key.
1 I’m quite happy with it. It just needs to be reviewed regularly with the fans to make sure we are doing the right things, and all pulling in the right direction.
1 I’m too far away to realistically comment.
1 I’m very happy with the way the club is run.
2 IM HAPPY
1 In a word, excellent. There is still a “click” at the club with an inner sanctum of supporters who first brought the club together, but these people put more time in to the club, so it isnt a huge problem. Erik et al are excellent and driving the club forward equally as the squad devlops, Terry has to be the right choice as manager as someone who can guide us through the pitfalls of going professionel etc. I still believe we will need to engage with a 3rd party who will want to buy the club, we have to remove our feelings from this and listen to any proposal with a rational head on. Yes it is our club, yes we’ve done a bloody good job, but they right person with the right proposal could be the only to really realise our aims.
1 In general it is run well. However, sometimes the Club/Trust comes across with the attitude of ‘my way or the highway’. I think this is partly due to a few people trying to do everything. They are left with little time to explore or consider other views. Perhaps there should be a suggestion box type thing were members/fans can post ideas/queries. A volunteer could administer this and make sure that the appropriate response is got. I think this would work better than sending an email to the Club/Trust then having it ignored or lost. This is something that WUP could even set up.
1 In my opinion the Board of AFCW is in danger of forgetting that we are all equal here. We seem to have lost the spirit of pulling together. An example of this is the vote on the extension to the main stand – very few people were against extending the stand so as not to lose the planning permission, but many had reservations about it being lumped in with rebuilding the offices and toilets, yet we were unable to vote separately. I think the Club is in danger of losing many of its volunteers – it seems that only some are now welcome as volunteers.
1 Inclusive, something for everyone at the club, successful, humble & proud. I know it’s cloud cuckoo/hippy, but people before profit ethos, yes we need sufficient money but not at the expense of our hearts.
1 It is a shame so many of the fans who were very active at the start have stopped being involved – or even coming. I believe Erik is interested in the long-term viablity of the club (which is VERY IMPORTANT), even if some don’t like his methods. Volunteers need to be consulted more.
1 It is generally well-run. We mustn’t overspend on players wages though and it’s important not to overprice admission. I want to see the Dons go for league status and the higher the better (but in a well-prepared way). Kingsmeadow, if used for Football League fixtures, will have to have an increased capacity, so we’ll probably have to build further back at Tempest End or higher &/or behind the main stand.
1 It’s pretty good (well I would say that, being on the DTB), but there is always room for improvement and constructive suggestions should be welcomed.
1 Its all a little to clicky. Too many people think they are more important than anybody else.
1 Its all about the money!= progress.Its always going to be hard to move forward with so many smallminded leftwigers at the club we need solid dependable leaders with huge amounts of money and unconditional love for wimbledon fcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
1 I`m very happy with the running of the club, i would like to say that every effort should be to get us back to merton
1 keeo it real dont overstretch
1 Keep on keeping on. We are right.
1 lets just budget within ourt own means
1 Love it, charmed by every contact with AFCW. Hope it disguises a ruthless and determined well oiled machine.
1 Mainly happy but worried about incurring further debts.
1 Mainly happy. The OS situation needs to be resolved. Minutes of DT meetings need to be published on time. We need better communication between club and supporters generally.
1 more integration between sections Mens; Ladies; Football in the Community & Girls
1 Most of us don’t have time to get actively involved and have to trust those that do to act in the club’s, and the fans’ best interests. In general I’m happy that the club is run well but there is sometimes a feeling that “some are more equal than others”. For the future, generally more of the same as we seem to be getting more and more professional in our approach but without taking the risks (especially financial ones) that have casued problems at other clubs.
1 Move back to Wimbledon and have a chairman who can finance the club but no have over 49% ownership
1 Move back to Wimbledon/Merton as and when possible. Keep building the community football and links with schools/youth groups. Never sell out even if it means restricting progress up the leagues. Always consider long-term future for club over short term wherever possible. Always provide a cultural footballing experience to home and away fans and never start seeing AFCW as a business first and club second.
1 Need to be less precious about the “fan-owned” element. Ultimately, most fans have little say and are fans in much the same way as those of other clubs. That’s not to say sell out, but just be more pragmatic about the commercial world we exist in.
1 Needs more help for the little things…comms, website, accessibility etc.
1 Needs to look seriously at outside funding. Also, too many “personalities” about.
1 No The commercial side of the cub isnt as good as it should be – never liked the idea of Hellor running the club – I am sure he is happy to print programmes for us! Never thought it was right to give Kris Stewart a paid job as chairman – it was convenient as he had lost his job at the time! Marc Jones is someone else to have done well out of the club. Not happy the way the renovations have been passed through – the way the OS reported the affair seems to stink. Erik Samuelson on the other hand is decent seems to have a brain and does well for the club.
1 No
1 NO – I want …………
1 No complaints here, ie the running of the club. Very professional imo. Future direction? Well, upwards obviously, but within budgets. I doubt we will ever be entirely debt free (that’s football) but would like to see more emphasis on clearing/vastlyreducing the ground debt before climbing much higher.
1 no I feel that we had an opportunity a year or so back when an offer was made by an outsider and the proposal was turned down at the first stage without consultation. Also, believe that there is possibly discrimination against certain elements of our support by staff, stewards and other supporters.
1 No one’s ever going to agree with every little thing, but in general the club is fortunate to have a lot of talented people working their socks off to give us a club to support.
1 No real in depth knowledge of how it runs currently, not aware of anything not going well so overriding impression is that it’s being rnu very well considering very few of the people running it had previous experience
1 no, need a chairman with deep pockets
1 No, to reach our expectations we need a chairman with money
1 Not entirely happy but we are a club that reflects what we are able to put in. We need other people to step up to the plate though to challenge some of those that think they have a divine right to be where they are.
1 Not in a positíon to advíse. Think the organisation is great.
1 Official website is the obvious gripe. Not enough seems to be being done commercially either (sorry Keith!)
1 ok
1 On the whole good.
1 On the whole yes. None at present.
1 Once all debt is paid I would like to think. 1. We do not saddle ourselves with a debt in future(Unless it involves moving back to SW19) 2. We invest in a great squad to get ourselves as high up the league as possible. 3. Staff and admin team become proffessional as well as playing side. Voting of DT issues can become more accessable and flexible. Voting on issues via the internet/email is a must if we are to really get all members having their say on decisions in a quick timeframe. (Not sure the club would want this?) . Issues such as investment, strip, location etc can get to a much wider audience than a show of hands before a match.
1 Overall, yes, I’m happy. I have no fears that our club will suffer the same fate as WFC. If, however, we sell out to a sugar daddy, I shall stop supporting the club. This is a fans’ club and should remain so.
1 People give up a lot of time for free for AFCW. I like the approach, stance and attitude that emanates from the management. I am not aware of them getting anything wrong in my view – but if they did I would accept that it is their right to do things their way.
1 Perfectly happy with the way the club is run, more of the same please.
1 Persons running the club have done a MAGNIFICENT job. Cannot praise all those individuals highly enough, regardless of whether they are known faces or just volunteers giving a few hours in a blue moon. We have our club back. For that I am eternally grateful and VERY proud.
1 Pretty much.
1 Pretty much. I worry about the debt, but have voted for it on each occasion. The democratic principles of our club are more important than progress on the pitch; we must never sell our souls to the devil disguised as a sugar daddy.
1 Pretty much. Slight concerns about how much we’re spending but have trust in the people in charge.
1 Quite happy, thank you.
1 Quite happy, while Erik is still at the helm, but it is a potential ‘house of cards’ should he not be able to continue.
1 quite happy.
1 Quite happy. See above answer (3) re stability.
1 Reasonably but there does need to be better communication. A lack of complaint from large numbers of supporters does not necessarily mean that supporters agree with what is going on,just that they don’t want to be involved in internal politics or maybe feel that their views are not really taken into consideration by the clubs inner circle. It does worry me that the club could become the vehicle for peoples political views too. I’m not actually referring to Kris’ leafleting here although that was misjudged. I’m more concerned about the club turning into the Norbiton branch of the Labour Party rather than being a football club. Some attitudes prevalent in the club will rub people up the wrong way and turn them off. In future I would like the club to have a wider range of views within the club in future. At the moment I find it rather too much of a muchness.
1 reasonably happy
1 Reasonably so. Attending meetings is difficult if you do not live close to the ground. Somehow the supporters need to be given easier access to these meetings.
1 Reasonably so. No.
1 Remarkable set of talents at the core that needs renewing now and then. I worry that those who claim to have started the club will fail to give up their metaphorical ‘ownership’ and fail to see good ideas coming from new supporters because they seem to challenge their ideas
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1 Seems to be being run very professionally, We are lucky to have a bright, thoughtful chief executive who does not wish to be paid. One day we will have to pay the going rate for this role.
1 Seems to be run fine
1 seems well run, perhaps a tad too sensibly
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1 should the dog track ever become vacant we should think about it.
1 So far i am happy with things.
1 Supporters run club can only go so far. Money is needed at some time. Gates appeared to have levelled out and effort needed to get new support – promotion to BS(S) may have a positive impact on gates. Are some supporters expectations too high – living on memories of PL/D1 at Selhurst and expecting the same now ?
1 The club appears to be under excellent stewardship at present. In time we are going to have to go full time on the playing front and we will also need to bring in more professional leadership in the running of the club.As a Fans club the only way we are going to be able to afford this is by developing players through the youth system and this is an area we should be concentrating on now.
1 The club is run by a Gang of Four. I don’t particulalrly like it, but have neither time nor energy to change it. On th whole it is well run
1 The club is run by fans, predominately using their free time for no or little reward.
1 The general direction is good , some things could be done better but that’s the same for every club or business anywhere in the world – perfection is impossible.
1 The most important thing for me was not to have a ‘fan owned club’ but to have a football club for Wimbledon. I believe, as supporters, we should always have some hold on the club but owning the club outright or in majority is not as important to me as getting a home ground of our own (and regardless of what anyone says, KM is not ours) and getting into the football league and continuing to grow and thrive.
1 The way AFCW is going is not entirely to my taste, but I understand why it is happening and why the majority would be in favour. I would be happy watching Wimbledon in non-league, period. I’m very nervous about the new debt we are taking on (and more debt will follow I assume) and did not vote in favour. My view is that I don’t want to chase the league ‘dream’, so i’ve reached the limit of forever emptying my pockets. Those who are in favour of their dream must also fund it, in my view. I also wish we could accept that we are just a normal club instead of being ‘special’. It does us no favours. Also, commenting on the question above in the unlikely event that we joined a league based on ‘fans clubs’ it wouldn’t be one that I paid to watch that is for sure. As I say, the quicker we accept we are just another club the better it will be for all.
1 There isn’t enough room here for my opinions on this
1 There needs to be more involvement in working groups and at Dons trust meetings, which needs those who discuss matters in the bars, on the terraces and on guestbooks to actually come forward with properly drafted proposals for wider discussion. So many great thoughts are left hanging due to a reluctance to put them to a wider audience, despite the obvious passion in their early formualation.
1 Things can always be improved and it’s always easy for people to criticize what is going. But on the whole i’m happy with what is done.
1 Think we’re run brilliantly. Having someone who has worked most of his life in finance now as our CEO is a good move, don’t know what direction in the future though.
1 To date we have been well funded and supported, yes I think the club is run and hope it continues.
1 Totally happy! But everyone must pull together, at times there seems to be too many in-house arguements.
1 Totally.
1 Ultimately I’d like the club completely out of debt, but realise that will take time and effort.
1 Until someone comes up with a better one we appear to be doing fine.
1 Vary happy
1 verry happy
1 Very confident in the people who handle the clubs affairs.although would be alot happier if our club sold pukka pies….
2 Very Happy
1 very happy – plenty of transparency
1 Very happy and grateful to all the staff and volunteers.
1 Very happy and thank you to everyone.
1 Very happy at the moment – but i think as soon as we reach the Conference we need to think about being full-time both on and off the pitch.
1 Very happy at the moment but I do consider outside funding will be required for us to reach higher levels
1 Very happy at the moment, lets see where we go!
1 Very happy indeed
1 Very happy overall. However some of the details could be improved. Also I would like an agreed process for evaluating and responding to suggestions, requests and fund-raising ideas. Feels at the moment like lobbing wishes down a well and walking away wondering if it was worth the effort!
1 Very happy with the board and management.
1 Very happy with way club is run but in the future may need to look at more full time staff
1 Very happy, but could be a bit morfe professional
1 Very happy, the guys at the top listen to our gripes / comments and often take them on board
2 Very happy.
1 Very happy. We need to continue to be ambitious but also cautious – not over-stretching the club for the sake of further promotion.
1 Very pleased to see the development within the club.
1 Very well mananged and I am proud to be part of it.
1 VVV Happy
1 We are moving up, for the time being thats the right direction.
1 we are still a young club, 3 promotions in 6 years, that is solid if unspectaclar progress. The stadium is being improved, we are now in a semi-national division. There is still a lot to learn, as darlogate proved, but there are definately a lot of positives at the club.
1 we need more money, it is idealistic for a fans club it is ok to a certain level but if you expect to progress big moey is needed
1 We need more people taking on the workload of those who have for a long time, done too much.
1 we need to promote ourselves as the football team of south west london outside the top two leagues to attract bigger gates
1 We need to rely more on full-time and part-time/match-day employees and less on volunteers. That said, putting the current volunteers under contract and paying them is probably the best way to go.
1 We’re run as well as any fans’ democratically owned and run club can be.
1 would like more openess & am woried about an us & them position arising eventually
1 Would like to see a little more information and accountability. There seems to be a bit of personality problems at the top
1 Would like to see the Trust more to the forefront in publicity terms. We oftrne talk about why is it declining in numbers the obvious reason is nbody sees what it is there for.
1 yeah the receptionist is well fit ;o))
1 yep
1 Yep.
1 Yer im happy with the way the club is being run i think we are doin things right and long may it continue !
1 Yes Don’t go full time too soon
1 yes need to sort out the bars /function rooms so they can take and make more money
12 yes
1 Yes – very happy – nice if we had more cash
1 Yes although I think we can utilise KMs finacial potential better eg car boot sales on sunday mornings in the car park etc.
1 Yes and keep the AFC Wimbledon name as it is what we are and what we stand for, also a move back to WFC would alienate people who weren’t WFC, but like me started supporting at or after Gander Green Lane. I would almost feel like I was having my club taken from me.
1 Yes and no.
1 Yes but with more ambition
1 Yes generally, but sometimes feel upset that the club think we have unlimited cash to give them. We haven’t!
1 Yes I am very happpy with the way things are run. Things I would improve on are communication and ways to promote the Dons Trust and help fans understand the structure and constitution.
1 Yes I believe so and as long as the board and club don’t take on a negative view and be happy with standing still. Or complacent that we have done all we can we will be fine, we have to be ambitious then I would be very happy.
1 yes I’m happy at the moment, and I think the club is progressing in the right direction.
1 Yes it’s fine. The problem is to get more people to engage in having their say
1 Yes to the first part. As for any future direction, I’m quite happy with how things are but ultimately I want to play back in Wimbledon.
1 Yes totally…
1 Yes very happy although we are going to need to generate a lot more serious revenue when we head to the conference and can not really on these donations, especially in todays crunch market. We need to review the business model and revenue models. Need to seriously get our name out globally to attract new fans and people who have dropped off after we stagnated for a couple of seasons, I myself did in the Ryman Premier but returned this season.
1 Yes very happy but I think the club should not allow (passively or otherwise) political activists or political parties to canvas on its property and politics should not be allowed to influnce how the football club is run.
1 Yes, broadly speaking. I have so much respect to those who actually contribute and what they have achieved. Was happy to vote for (and therefore contribute to) the ground extension. However I think it’s incumbent on the club to address its fans recruitment activities squarely at the Kingston community *At least* as much as it does in SW19. It’s perverse to do anything else.
1 Yes, but I would like to see a greater emphasis being put on a long term funding strategy – ie the development of a trust fund that would accumulate capital with, initially, a limited use permitted of the interest, say 20% annually, to subsidise running costs. Over the years both capital & revenue would increase thus contributing increasingly significantly to finances.
1 Yes, but need to ensure that we grow organicaly
1 Yes, generally happy but would like to see more fans helping out.
1 yes, however would like to see afc wimbledon creating a business/brand i.e comedy night and kingsmeadow live to give a larger income to compensate for no big money men owners
1 Yes, I am
1 Yes, I am happy. Erik, in particular, is fantastic.
1 Yes, I think we are being run the right way and for the right reasons, i.e. we are a club wholely owned by the fans on a prudent financial basis. I think these are the corner stones of our future growth and development. Also, our youth team set up is brilliant.
1 Yes, I’m happy with the way it is run in general terms. Don’t say I agree with everything, but on the whole – well done! Especially to those who give up so much time on a voluntary basis. Money will be the prime subject in the future, as pointed out above, and we MAY have to reconsider our options should another ‘offer’ be made, but am prepared to listen and decide at that time.
1 Yes, mainly. There are always things to improve.
1 yes, very happy
3 Yes, very happy.
1 Yes, very.
1 Yes,happy with the way the club is being run.
1 Yes,I think the club is going in the right direction,but i fill we still have to look at a new ground as I dont think our ground will be big enough when we get into the leaque
1 yes,people doing a grand job,in difficult circumstances at times i would like to see us make more money for the debt from the bar and function rooms..ie develop and improve
1 yes. areas we can improve on, but most cost money and arent the priority for now
1 Yes. The very existence of the club should be an inspiration to all genuine football fans. The way forward is virtually pre-destined and I am confident that the club will eventually progress to a football league position.
2 Yes.
1 Yes. Although I do believe that considerations should be made if an investor want’s to hand over a large sum of money to the club. As long as this dosn’t compromise the future of the club.
1 yes. well done to all concerned
1 yes. although when we get to Conf National it’s time to be less reliant on volunteers and get more professional.
1 yes. Concerns over limitations on current KM site. Need to consider athletics area as well
1 Yes. It would be good to reinstate the pre-match briefings for fans as its hard to get to evening SGMs etc.
1 Yes. Key is to ensure that the people ‘at the top’ share our desire to succeed.
1 yes. terracing on the john smith’s & kingston road end needs sorting though
1 Yes. That the senior team has done so well in such a short time is ample evidence. Behind the scenes stuff leaves me some what bewildered – too much minor politicking does my head in.
1 Yes. we should get more players from big clubs on work experiance, such as Romone Rose.
9. Have you accepted KM as our long term home?

Yes   72.5% (301)
No   27.5% (114)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
10. Would you sacrifice promotion for an FA Trophy win at Wembley?

Yes   41.2% (171)
No   58.8% (244)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
11. How important is a return to Merton, in your opinion?

Very important   17.1% (71)
An idea we need to continue to pursue   50.8% (211)
Do I look bovered?   8.4% (35)
I’d rather get promotion than get a new ground   12.5% (52)
I’m cosy here. Kingsmeadow is now our home   11.1% (46)
TOTAL   100.0% 415
12. Please let us know how important the following points are to you. Please rate from 1 (not important) to 5 (very important)

  Average rank
  1 2 3 4 5    
Cup run  (3.5)
Reaching Wembley  (2.9)
Reaching the playoffs  (3.6)
Winning promotion  (3.7)
Avoiding relegation  (4.5)
13. Looking ahead, what do you see as the best name for our club?

Stay as AFC Wimbledon   68.7% (285)
Wimbledon   8.4% (35)
Wimbledon F.C.   19.8% (82)
Wimbledon Town   0.2% (1)
Other: Either Wimbledon FC or AFC Wimbledon – there are merits in both and I would like to hear a debate on it to help my decision.   0.2% (1)
Other: GROUND NICKERS   0.2% (1)
Other: I really don’t care.   0.2% (1)
Other: it must have been a good idea at some point, haven’t heard a strong enough argument for change.   0.2% (1)
Other: lets just be known as Wimbledon keep the AFc but like Bouremouth dont mention it and please dont go back to that badge with the borders!   0.2% (1)
Other: need to debate AFCW or WFC   0.2% (1)
Other: No name change to WFC considered until league place regained   0.2% (1)
Other: promote as wimbledon   0.2% (1)
Other: Stay as Wimbledon but less emphasis on using ‘AFC’ in the media   0.2% (1)
Other: wimbledon 2002   0.2% (1)
Other: Wimbledon AFC   0.2% (1)
Other: Wimbledon Old Central FC   0.2% (1)
TOTAL   100.0% 415

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